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Old 10-26-09 | 01:58 PM
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Another fast 32c tire thread

Does anyone have experience riding 700x32 Vittoria Randonneur Hyper, 700x32 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes, or 700x30 Schwalbe Marathon Racers versus 700x32 Vittoria Randonneurs?

I've been running 700x32 Vittoria Randonneurs and 700x28 Continental UltraGatorskins on my road touring bike the past 2 1/2 years. In the summer I put the Gatorskins on to go faster. Fall through spring I use the Randonneurs, mainly for the reflective sidewalls when the days are shorter. I ride suburban & country roads and rail trails. I weigh 180lbs and usually don't carry more than 10lbs on the bike. On the local rail trail I ride the Randonneurs at 85psi are perfect, but the Gatorskins at 100psi can be a little squirrely in places. I haven't a had a flat on either tire yet (hope I didn't just jinx myself).

Basically I am looking for a slick or mostly slick 700x32 tire as reliable as the Randonneurs, with reflective sidewalls, but somewhat lighter that I can run up to 90psi. Small sipes are OK, but I don't care for more of a tread pattern than than what's on the Randonneurs.
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Old 10-26-09 | 02:02 PM
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Rode 2800 miles on 700 x 35 Schwalbe Marathon Racers. Had ten flats in the first 2600 miles.
They have a soft ride that used up my energy.

I now prefer 700 x 28's for all riding.
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Old 10-26-09 | 03:23 PM
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Schwalbe Marathon Supremes all the way.
I have a few thousand (2-3k; I don't track it with a cyclocomputer) on my winter commuter (26x2.0) and about 1000 miles on our tandem (f:700x32; r:700x35). One flat on my winter commuter so far on crappy Chicago streets. They are smooth rolling, yet grippy even in rainy and wet conditions. They have white sidewalls.
Only drawback is that they are expensive. Expect to pay over $100 for a pair
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Old 10-27-09 | 06:04 AM
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If you don't mind trying another 28 mm tire, the Continental GP 4 Seasons should be grippier than Gatorskins and just as durable.

Grand Bois tires are another option, but they are rather expensive. They are about the lightest 30-32 mm tires available, and rolling resistance is supposed to be low. I just wish they were available in all black rather than just skinwalls.

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Old 10-27-09 | 08:32 AM
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randonneurs are garden hoses masquerading as bicycle tires.

try the panaracer T-Serv for messenger 32s or the bontrager HC 32s for some high pressure, big volume, fast tires.

Casing hysteresis in the T-Serv is low and makes for a very fast rolling tire.
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Old 10-27-09 | 08:36 AM
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I run 32cs on my FCR. Stock tires were kedas, and now I run all Specialized Infinities or Bontrager Race Lites depending on how much road/path I will be doing or depending on the if there is any water on the roads.
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Old 10-27-09 | 09:07 AM
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randonneurs are garden hoses masquerading as bicycle tires.
Truth!

I ride Rando-Crossers on my singlespeed just because I like to beat it up on some crushed stone or packed dirt trails once in a while, but on the road those things are total slugs. Low psi, heavy, hard sidewalls, etc. Flat resistant as hell, but I wouldn't want to do anything more than 100k on them again.
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Old 10-27-09 | 09:34 AM
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Does anyone have experience riding 700x32 Vittoria Randonneur Hyper, 700x32 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes, or 700x30 Schwalbe Marathon Racers versus 700x32 Vittoria Randonneurs?
I have the Hypers in 700x32. They seem really nice to me; they don't feel at all slow or unwieldy. They "feel" faster than the 700x32 (though really x28) Avocets they replaced, and the Hypers are much more comfortable as well.

I only have a couple hundred miles on them, but so far I really like them - no flats yet. I'll definitely buy them again if they don't turn out to be flat-prone.

My Buzz came with the Randonneur Cross tires that CliftonGK1 mentions... those tires are dogs.
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Old 10-27-09 | 09:46 AM
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I've had good luck over the last 3-4000 miles with 700x32 Panaracer Urban Max tires. They don't have white sidewalls but they handle the (glass-strewn) roads and (thorn-strewn) bike paths down here in Tucson. They are rated up to 90 psi but most times I run them at 100 or so without issues (I'm about 165 lbs and used to carry around 20 lbs of crap on my commutes).

Can't say how fast/slow they are compared to others. I switched to these from the stock Kenda 25s and don't remember any significant change in speed.

Tread is minimal. $20 each. YMMV
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Old 10-27-09 | 09:57 AM
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A gatorskin is faster than a Marathon Supreme is slightly faster than the Randonneur.

No experience with the others.
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Old 10-27-09 | 11:30 AM
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How 'bout the Schwalbe Kojak in a slighter wider 35? I use the 26" version (26x1.35") and it seems to roll very well at 80-85 psi. They'll go to 95 psi if you feel the need to do that. 330g with folding bead.
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Old 10-27-09 | 12:27 PM
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I don't overthink this kind of thing too much. Just get a 32mm with some kind of flat-belt (usually kevlar), inflate it to proper psi, and ride.

You are the one needed to make it fast! Unless you race, worrying about saving a few seconds is absurd.
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Old 10-27-09 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gene2308
Unless you race, worrying about saving a few seconds is absurd.

Yea, there's always that one guy who needs to click on these threads and criticize the people for having a preference.

At least now we can stop wondering who that guy is going to be this time.
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Old 10-27-09 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Gene2308
I don't overthink this kind of thing too much. Just get a 32mm with some kind of flat-belt (usually kevlar), inflate it to proper psi, and ride.

You are the one needed to make it fast! Unless you race, worrying about saving a few seconds is absurd.
Certainly no one can actually prefer the feel of a faster tire. That would be absurd!
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Old 10-27-09 | 01:21 PM
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I've had good luck over the last 3-4000 miles with 700x32 Panaracer Urban Max tires. They don't have white sidewalls but they handle the (glass-strewn) roads and (thorn-strewn) bike paths down here in Tucson. They are rated up to 90 psi but most times I run them at 100 or so without issues (I'm about 165 lbs and used to carry around 20 lbs of crap on my commutes).

Can't say how fast/slow they are compared to others. I switched to these from the stock Kenda 25s and don't remember any significant change in speed.

Tread is minimal. $20 each. YMMV
Great tires for the money. 2k on mine so far.
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Old 10-27-09 | 01:30 PM
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At least now we can stop wondering who that guy is going to be this time.
Sure, I'm him. I ride Vittoria 37's...but only because I found some cheap....would've used just about any belted tire close to that size. Not as fast as 23's obviously, but fine.

Since all we're talking about is 32's, I think attempts to find the "fastest" one are pretty pointless, that's all. And I see this questions all the time. How about just overinflate it to 80 psi? Drop to 28's instead?

They are *almost mutually exclusive (except slight differences in tread thickness, bead weight, etc)....like trying to find a rain jacket that "breathes well"

Anyone have a great hill-climbing beach cruiser? Which is the fastest?
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Old 10-27-09 | 01:41 PM
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I should also add that I wear cotton almost exclusively, even in the cold...so my opinion isn't worth much.

I don't know, I have kind of shifted from "stuff I have read" to "stuff I have actually tried and found to work".....so I am getting grumpy or something.
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Old 10-27-09 | 01:52 PM
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I don't overthink this kind of thing too much. Just get a 32mm with some kind of flat-belt (usually kevlar), inflate it to proper psi, and ride.

You are the one needed to make it fast! Unless you race, worrying about saving a few seconds is absurd.
Those few seconds are the difference between making the green light or not. That could mean a difference of minutes in a commute. That is assuming one stops at stop lights.
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Old 10-27-09 | 01:52 PM
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The 700 X 30 Schwalbe Marathon Racers are excellent all-around tires on my Lemond road bike.
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Old 10-27-09 | 02:01 PM
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Those few seconds are the difference between making the green light or not. That could mean a difference of minutes in a commute
The next time I'm driving on the beltway I'll tell the officer that one .

No seriously, I get it. I realize there are differences in tire quality, ride, price, weight, etc. I'm getting old and grouchy.
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Old 10-27-09 | 05:01 PM
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Thanks to everyone who took the time to reply.

Originally Posted by Gene2308
I should also add that I wear cotton almost exclusively, even in the cold
Seriously, I hope you never get hypothermia.

Threads like this are pointless only if no one ever gains anything from them.

Personally I find that faster = more fun, and as I mentioned in my original post: on rail trails I find 32s are great but 28s can be squirrely sometimes. In addition I find myself spending a lot of time watching out for K-Rap in the road when I'm riding 28s, on 32s I just enjoy the ride.
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Old 10-28-09 | 03:11 AM
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Seriously, I hope you never get hypothermia.
Nah, I work in DC (which doesn't get too cold) outside most of the time as well. I think people also waste a lot of time and money on the layering/clothing thing as well. I would venture a guess that many (or most) folks commuting are only going to be on their bike for 1-2 hours - certainly nothing with extreme exposure. Instead of worrying about my clothing materials, I just ride a lot to get a feel for how much clothing I need, and I try to eliminate sweat (which is what makes cotton a hazard to insulation).

I like the ride of 32's also. They are a great compromise between comfort and speed IMO.
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Old 01-27-13 | 08:27 PM
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The 700 X 30 Schwalbe Marathon Racers are excellent all-around tires on my Lemond road bike.
Aha, so they DO make 700x30 tires!!! I never see them, when I'm looking for them (any brand), so I assume they're an endangered species. (?) Actually, I just found this thread, looking for info on the Panaracer Urban Max, and I see 2 positives and no negatives, so I'm happy. I've been using those 700x28 Ultra Gator Skins, and like them a lot, but I really kinda wanted a little more cushion. The 700x32 should be just about right, I think. The big issue for me has been clearance under the brake calipers, my bikes seem to hit a wall at 28c, but a newish-to-me bike will take the 32c, so I'm kinda psyched.
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Old 01-27-13 | 11:12 PM
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Have the Gatorskins, Marathon Supremes, etc ever been tested rigorously? I've been looking for rolling resistance tests for tires like these, but have been totally unable to find anything.
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Old 01-27-13 | 11:32 PM
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Of those you've posted, I have only ridden the Marathon Supremes, and they were nice. Pretty fast rolling, good grip, good road feel.

That said, I've also used the Conti GP 4 Season in a 25 and I love them. I'd imagine the 28's would be excellent!
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