macteacher

Well I am in love with a Pashley Roadster Sovereign...

Problem is, I have a mountain bike for well, mountain biking

an 20 yr old beater, for my winter commuting

and a new '08 Marin that I bought for my commute, .... I want to get the pashley as well. I just love the bicycle. Im hoping to make it a commuter as well. I've read so much about how easy they are to ride and how the design of the bike helps to reduce the sweat issue.

And I can afford the Pashley.....so money isn't really the big deal....(well it is....its not cheap, but I do have a job).

Im just trying to justify the cost, when I already have a new commuter which works well.

<sigh>..... anybody else ever gone through this dilemma? Anybody have one by chance? Thoughts/opinions?


I should add a link to this beauty https://www.pashley.co.uk/products/ro...sovereign.html

electrik

They're nice, but real slow due to the less efficient riding position and weight... not the sort of bicycle you would ride aggressively on.

Nothing wrong with your Marin? Sell it, try the pashley. https://www.curbside.on.ca/blog/

It won't solve your sweat issue though.

ttquattro

hi if money (and space) isnt a prob i would buy and use it when i like, changes are good in life : )

fuzz2050

N+1 all over again. Just be glad you have the money.

macteacher

Well...does anyone else have a pashley? Anyone else ever have the urge to make such a purchase? Everytime I ride, I keep thinking of that pashley..<sigh>.

Such an elegant, beautiful bike

electrik

Just watch out i think the wicked witch of the west rides one. Oh yeah and Toronto cyclist union's Yvonne also!

unterhausen

what are you waiting for?

macteacher

So why do you suggest curbside?

unterhausen: I don't think the shop has my size of the pashley in stock AND I just feel bad laying down all that cash for a bike I don't need, but want.

Grillparzer

To throw a little bit of fuel on your flame, I don't own one but Pashley's have a very good reputation and are very much a deluxe bicycle. I've never read anything but glowing reviews of the brand. I follow a number of different bicycle blogs (sixty eight at last count) and the author of one of them owns a Pashley, if I can find an email address for you I'll post it and you can communicate with her directly about it.

electrik

I heard they were sold there... in case you wanted to rent/try one. I think the new Toronto bike share program is using a dutch type bicycle also!

Bekologist

I'm so over pedigree, think proletariat. you can get the ride of a pashely without the british whoohaw.

the design of the bike only works to combat sweat if you ride it 8 miles an hour!


here's a crosscheck built up as a bastard gentleman's upright. snowice2008.jpg darn fast too.

bigvegan

They are pretty, but with a chainguard, some fenders, some new handlebars, and maybe a little paint, you could probably turn your Marin or your beater into a pretty classic looking Townie. (This thread might help - https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...hlight=townies.)

Better still, either of those would probably tip the scales at about 30lbs. The Pashley is over FORTY SEVEN POUNDS. As a superclyde, I'm hardly a weight weenie, but 47lbs is just stupid heavy for a bicycle.

I'd save the $ and the weight (15+lbs!) and make a little project of giving one of your existing bikes a little more style, but that's just me.

Good luck.

Sixty Fiver

There is nothing that will compare to that Pashley unless you were to get a vintage roadster which is easier said than done... trying to make another bike (other than a roadster) into one would be like putting lipstick on pig.

There is no comparison and it is the kind of bike you will keep and pass on to your grandchildren...

bigvegan

This is only if you lack any aesthetic sense or creativity and don't have access to google.

Nobody's grandchildren are going to be grateful for a 47lb bicycle. Especially one with 28" tires. It's the British equivalent of a Flying Pigeon.

Bekologist

yeah, seriously. 635c? No thanks. I think it IS 'lipstick on a pig' - a pretty, black, 47 pound pig!

hand it down to the grandkids? it's not a Ulysse Nardin triple complication timepiece fer gosh sakes!

Sixty Fiver

Saying Flying Pigeon and Pashley in the same breath is sacrilege.

Unless you have experienced the joy of riding a roadster you can't really comment on how wonderful they are.

My old friend... only 37 pounds.

xray1978

Agreed, comparing a Pashley to Flying Pigeon is silly. Roadsters are like riding a Harley in that, if you have to explain it to someone they will probably never get it.

Roadsters

Sixty Fiver

I have ridden Harley's and roadsters... I would take the roadster every time.

If it was my old Honda 750 Supersport and a roadster the result might be different.

Jay D

Beautiful bike! Almost too pretty to be used as a daily commuter though. I would honestly be concerned about being under dressed while riding something like that!

Sammyboy

I would. I have a 60's Raleigh roadster, with a 4 speed Sturmey Archer hub and all the trimmings (chaincase, full fenders etc) and I love it to bits. No, it's not an aggressive ride, but you can roll along majestically pretty fast; I don't find I have any trouble flying past the creaky mountain bikes whilst looking like a country gent, but I can't really compete with roadies on it. That's missing the point though; it's much more like driving a Rolls than riding a Harley. It's majestic, relaxing, and makes you feel like something a bit special. The only issue I ever have with it is that the combination of old sidepulls and steel rims doesn't provide great braking (I've been planning to rebuild the wheels with alloy rims), so a Pashley, with all the associated quality, alloy rims, 5 speeds, hub brakes and a Brooks (which I have yet to put on my Raleigh - still rolling a mattress saddle, which is just fine, but doesn't feel Rolls Royce!) would be mighty appealing. It's not even THAT expensive, at least here. More or less comparable with a Nexus 8 equipped commuter, really.

gna

I believe Veloria, who is a member of Bike Forums, has a Pashley, as does her "co-habitant." She writes the Lovely Bicycle blog. PM her or email her at her blog.

Her blog is intelligent and very well-written (and well-photographed).
Recommended.

JeffS

Had a similar feeling about the Velorbis Scrap Deluxe. I was planning to move to a more central location and pictured using it for the casual rides out to eat or to the store.

In the end, I bought the bike, and moved from one suburb to a more remote suburb... As it turns out, the bike sits in my office, used only for the occasional lunch trip. I enjoy riding it, but only under a very specific circumstance. I would never, ever, want to ride it to my house in traffic.

rhm

Hey, why can't we compare the Flying Pigeon to the Pashley? Seems to me they are the same type of bike, just from the bottom and top of the quality scale, respectively. Let's just say we want to compare some other bike to the Pashley ... what other bikes of this type are sold in North America today?

JeffS

Velorbis, Retrovelo, Batavus, Koga. If you want to start including customs, ANT, Bilenky, etc. If you want to go more mainstream, Electra and maybe Raleigh.

Include the Pigeon if you want, but it's not the same market.

Stray8

You want it.

You can afford it.

You have the space for it.

You can't stop thinking about getting it.

You feel a pinge of guilt since you already have the Marin..but you still want a Pashley.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're eventually getting a Pashley at some point anyway so...why not just pull the trigger and just order it now? What? someone is going to chide you for getting something you want and can afford? Feel guilty about having the Marin simultaneously? Then just donate it to the most concise and helpful poster on your thread!!!





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