I've been randomly hit with trash, in the head with a firecracker, in the face with a BB gun, and been punched in the head from behind while walking. Never had a chance to do anything about it, never saw who did it. There is no good way to prevent or get justice for s**t like this. There are evil people in this world. I just try not to let it keep me from enjoying the rest of my life.

Hand grenades.

Nice thought. Bet it would really tug at the heart of what ever punk thinks lethal assault is funny. A jug of clorox in the ol' gene pool might work better.
That is quite a sensational bit of writing there, you should write for the news, same twist and spin. Where was it said shoot at everybody in the car? You stop the threat, no more no less. BTW 32 auto is the ammo designation. The pistol is semi auto. Do you know the difference between an automatic and semi automatic weapon? You should.

To answer the question of location for those who are familiar with the town, I was on the corner of Austin Bluffs and Nevada. The hoods turned left in front of me to head up the University. I have already developed alternative routes - I have three that I mix up, but with the construction between Academy and I-25, my selection is limited.

I'm not a fan of guns, especially on bikes, and I am always amused at how these threads turn into a debate on the second amendment, but I do appreciate the support. I think the best weapon in this case is a good camera with a strong flash, and there's always the pepper spray I have yet to use on a dog, let alone someone who was raised by wolves.

The adrenaline rush helped me cut 7 1/2 minutes off of the remaining 4 miles of the commute.

I haven't seen anyone in this thread even mention any automatic weapon.

Gawd help them if i found them before the cops did.

The point is, somebody knows those people who are shooting randomly at people... maybe one of them or a witness will develop a conscious and turn them in. Instead people just want to shoot other people, i think that is easier, to just shoot at somebody and claim it solved the problem when in this case it just makes for a bigger problem.

I know the difference between such weapons, men in my country have no need to carry either type of pistol in their daily lives.

Solves the problem if it keeps me from being shot. I have been shot twice while serving in the military, no fun at all.

If true you are lucky. Not everyone is fortunate to live where it is entirly safe

Oh, it isn't entirely safe here.

Reminds me of a quote from the mahatma: "There are many causes that I am prepared to die for but no causes that I am prepared to kill for."

We can't carry guns in Canada but even if we could, I'd worry more about shooting the wrong person.

Total airgun afficianado here. I know they can be lethal. Most would be surprised at the calibers available in the precharged pneumatics nowadays. Shooting back though? Not unless they've cornered you/you can't talk your way out of it/ they're in your domicile.

Two things come to mind. If you have to, spray the driver with a shot of pepper spray. Best yet I think would be to hit the passengers with a high intensity flashbulb. One preferably attached to a camera.

But the shooting back thing. I don't think anyone here but a hardened war vet would be able to live very well with the memory of killing a perp here on US soil. Some of us would, but it's something no one ever talks about.

Even a .32 could potentially stop someone. But why risk it? Just get a .40 and be done with it.

Harv

^-lol

tor pee doh'd

The world is full of odd people with strange hobbies. But don’t let the adrenalin go to your head. You'll likely never see them again.

As far as the gun toting cyclists go, isn’t it wrong to shoot someone who is driving away from you, even if they did take a shot? You’d have to shoot them as they came up on you to be justified. Otherwise you will have forfeited your right to carry legally.

It is always amazing to me that retaliation is shot down so quickly in these discussions (and in America). It's almost viewed as OK for people to do mindless and cruel **** to random people.

You people are losing sight of what has been mentioned a few times in this thread. At minimum this is assault with a deadly weapon, with the potential to severely injure, paralyze, or kill the biker. I'd take that very seriously, and would have no problem returning fire if I owned a gun. At minimum put a bullet hole in the trunk lid. Now we are looking for a gray Acura with a bullet hole in the trunk lid.

By allowing this type of crap to continue with no repercussion we perpetuate the problem. Just like nothing ever happens to little Jimmy throwing rocks at cars at the bus stop.

We make all kinds of excuses to not react, when it is not the victim who is the instigator.

No doubt it was a serious attack, who knows what was on the dart to begin with. In this situation the OP didn't even have time to get the plates, let alone unholster a pistol and try to hit a 6" tall car trunk that is already a hundred meters away.

OP here, and precisely this. My thought has already been echoed in this thread - a high lumen flash, a camera, and pepper spray, in addition to a quick 911. I'm concerned that there may have been something on the dart, but luckily it didn't hit me. Escalating the incident with guns would accomplish nothing IMHO, except perhaps get them to stop and pull a real gun of their own. Idiots like this prefer to act in anonymity, hence the drive-by nature of the crime. The best weapon is to be more aware and get plates next time.

Can't you wear a jersey with the letters POLICE written on the back? I'm pretty sure that would make most people think twice about shooting. Simply wearing a jersey that says police, but not otherwise acting or representing yourself as one does not mean you're impersonating an officer.

I'm sorry, but all these types of suggestions will take this in the complete opposite direction.


To be clear on my first post, I was not suggesting that you should have done that, or that is was feasible in your situation. However, what I AM saying is... I would have had no problem with it if you did. Further to the point, I think our legal system shouldn't have a problem with it either.

Even if the police caught up to the people who did this it becomes a case of your word vs. theirs. Atleast that is what the police told me when someone threw a cup of something at me on my way into work. I even had the plate number plus make and model of the car as well as the cup sitting in the middle of the road.

Ever since that incident I make a game of reading every license plate of cars that pass me. Fortunately it has only happened once.

Understood, but if by chance they are caught with the weapon in their car, it's all over but the cryin'. It is better than doing nothing.

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Then can you explain this?

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Exactly my point. My guess is the police won't spend any time looking for this anyway.

When I got hit by a car on my bike, they asked me if anyone needed an ambulance. I said no. They said, "Well we don't come out unless someone is hurt." This is where we are today. Nothing will be done.

You don't know Colorado Springs. We are third in the nation as far as DUI citations. The cops troll the city at the exact hour I'm going home. I see cops all over the place on my homeward commute, just not last night. Dumb luck.

And before you say that the drunken drivers are more dangerous, I can see any vehicle coming from a mile away, I just can't know if they're armed.

Tonight I was heckled - at friggin' 1:15 a.m. (half an hour ago) by a speeding SUV with three occupants. I stared them down and the pu$$13$ rolled their window back up when I met them at the stoplight. I called the cops and reported the plates as driving erratically.

I am convinced the criminal element is alcohol + the college students (not that this is a new idea). I will no longer take the University route home at night. The hardest part to digest is how I can have been doing this for two years without incident and now two in two nights.

WTF :notamused:

I was visiting that area this past weekend. We saw a male bike cyclist with a decorated cake on the rear rack, riding with a holstered handgun. (My nephew says he got a photo, but I haven't seen it.)

I suspect that the police may take a different view of that.

Then how about one that says POLITE in big white letters on navy blue? :)

It's been going on since I was a kid in the 60s/70s...and probably even longer than that.

Here in San Diego they certainly would. I have a vintage BMW police motorcycle from Germany. I was riding west on University Ave. one afternoon wearing black jeans, an open face helmet, and a period double-breasted black leather jacket with "POLIZEI" on the back in tall reflective block print. Moving through traffic I could see an SDPD black and white in my mirrors trying hard to navigate through the gridlock. It finally caught up to me and lit me up. The two rookie officers wanted to know why I was "impersonating a police officer," even though I looked nothing like an officer from any modern U.S. police department. I spent about ten minutes explaining the vintage motorbike and obsolete jacket. They went back to the car to radio for instructions. Finally they came back and said that from a distance they could only see the first four letters "POLI..." and that I was doing nothing wrong and was free to go.

"No one who speaks German could be an evil man."
-The Simpsons

I had actually considered having a Polizei jersey made (three years in West Germany), but I don't think even drunks are going to believe that a cop would be out on a bicycle at 1:00 a.m. :-\