Vancouver, Black Ice studded tire question.
10-25-10, 05:48 PM
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Stupid question of the week.
I live in a condo. The hallway is carpet. Will be be pulling carpet threads up when I push the bike down the hallway with road beaten studs. I know I can just carry the bike. Just asking
I live in a condo. The hallway is carpet. Will be be pulling carpet threads up when I push the bike down the hallway with road beaten studs. I know I can just carry the bike. Just asking
10-27-10, 05:22 PM
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10-28-10, 08:51 AM
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I remember that day vividly. By the afternoon there was so much snow it was crazy. Most snow we had in Vancouver in 40 years.
I rode year round in Vancouver from '03-'09 and the only thing that I did was swap my 700-28 for 700-35 (Continental TT-2000). For 5 years I lived at 16th and Dunbar and I never had any problems with black ice. But they usually salt Alma and 16th pretty quick if there are any problems with road conditions because of those hills.
My friend in east Van (53rd and Elliot) however hit black ice a few times. But I think that she was at a higher elevation, plus further from the water. Which does seem to have an effect on how quickly roads can ice. We both worked downtown by the way.
So, depending on where you are - I would consider it. But it's not a necessity. Commonsense and allowing a little more time for commuting when conditions necessitate, with the wider tires at a lower pressure, has worked for me.
By the way, the worst that I ever had seen the major roads in Vancouver was Christmas Eve day a couple of years ago...
this was in the morning (around 5:30am), but in the afternoon, west Broadway was so rough with built up ice and slush, it was like riding on a rocky beach.
My friend in east Van (53rd and Elliot) however hit black ice a few times. But I think that she was at a higher elevation, plus further from the water. Which does seem to have an effect on how quickly roads can ice. We both worked downtown by the way.
So, depending on where you are - I would consider it. But it's not a necessity. Commonsense and allowing a little more time for commuting when conditions necessitate, with the wider tires at a lower pressure, has worked for me.
By the way, the worst that I ever had seen the major roads in Vancouver was Christmas Eve day a couple of years ago...
this was in the morning (around 5:30am), but in the afternoon, west Broadway was so rough with built up ice and slush, it was like riding on a rocky beach.
10-28-10, 12:18 PM
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I'm not sure why you brought up biking through the Massey Tunnel in this thread, but there is a bike shuttle:
https://www.th.gov.bc.ca/popular-topi...sey/massey.htm
https://www.th.gov.bc.ca/popular-topi...sey/massey.htm
How does one get from Vancouver to Point Roberts without going through Massey Tunnel? Ok maybe by boat. But on land.... apart from going on a massive detour.
10-28-10, 12:47 PM
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I have 10 year old Nokian studded tires , Here Black ice is a product of the winds down the Columbia Gorge
funneling the cold air mass east of the Cascades, west, then it becomes a problem,
I'd Say Invest in the Good Brands Schwalbe , and Nokian use Tungsten studs, so really dont wear much at all on a bike.
Pull the tires out the night before the storm, and fit them. take them off , and stow them when it thaws.
thats why my tires will probably out last Me. [26''mount and ground W]
funneling the cold air mass east of the Cascades, west, then it becomes a problem,
I'd Say Invest in the Good Brands Schwalbe , and Nokian use Tungsten studs, so really dont wear much at all on a bike.
Pull the tires out the night before the storm, and fit them. take them off , and stow them when it thaws.
thats why my tires will probably out last Me. [26''mount and ground W]
10-28-10, 09:35 PM
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You could just pedal really fast and ride through the tunnel.... I did it once. Never ever again!!!! Truckers really don't like being stuck behind a bike doing 30km/h and they let me know it.
11-23-10, 09:02 PM
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Today was my first ride with the Schwalbe Marathon Winter Studded Tire. Heavy buggers. Not complaining, just saying. Normally with my Jack Browns (Blue) I can hold 90 rpm (SS 39x 16) all day. Today I was lucky to hit 70 rpm. Granted I have not been on the bike for 11 weeks do to a training course. That would explain some of it.
I did encounter ice and the tire does it job. There were two sections of hard ice (50m) and the bike stayed true. Traffic was too heavy to play.
Just remember the obvious. 40 psi, warm, indoors is not 40 psi when its -10c. Once I put some air in the tires life got a little easier.
Be safe
I did encounter ice and the tire does it job. There were two sections of hard ice (50m) and the bike stayed true. Traffic was too heavy to play.
Just remember the obvious. 40 psi, warm, indoors is not 40 psi when its -10c. Once I put some air in the tires life got a little easier.
Be safe
11-24-10, 02:18 PM
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it's worth noting that if cost is a major concern, you can always opt to run a studded tire in the front only. it won't help you with getting traction on your power wheel, but if your primary concern is hitting ice and wiping out, a front studded tire is sufficient.
11-24-10, 11:29 PM
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11-25-10, 03:53 AM
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Today was my first ride with the Schwalbe Marathon Winter Studded Tire. Heavy buggers. Not complaining, just saying. Normally with my Jack Browns (Blue) I can hold 90 rpm (SS 39x 16) all day. Today I was lucky to hit 70 rpm. Granted I have not been on the bike for 11 weeks do to a training course. That would explain some of it.
I did encounter ice and the tire does it job. There were two sections of hard ice (50m) and the bike stayed true. Traffic was too heavy to play.
Just remember the obvious. 40 psi, warm, indoors is not 40 psi when its -10c. Once I put some air in the tires life got a little easier.
Be safe
I did encounter ice and the tire does it job. There were two sections of hard ice (50m) and the bike stayed true. Traffic was too heavy to play.
Just remember the obvious. 40 psi, warm, indoors is not 40 psi when its -10c. Once I put some air in the tires life got a little easier.
Be safe
Have you tried increasing the pressure?
I have 35mm Marathon Winters and typically run them at 70psi on ice. I would only go down to 40psi when there is a lot of snow about.
I have had great success with them, most memorably on a road which had flooded then frozen. Cars were abandoned and in ditches and I could sail pass with no problem at all.
11-26-10, 06:15 PM
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Have you tried increasing the pressure?
I have 35mm Marathon Winters and typically run them at 70psi on ice. I would only go down to 40psi when there is a lot of snow about.
I have had great success with them, most memorably on a road which had flooded then frozen. Cars were abandoned and in ditches and I could sail pass with no problem at all.
I have 35mm Marathon Winters and typically run them at 70psi on ice. I would only go down to 40psi when there is a lot of snow about.
I have had great success with them, most memorably on a road which had flooded then frozen. Cars were abandoned and in ditches and I could sail pass with no problem at all.
They definitely roll a little easier at higher pressure. The outside rows of studs don't come into contact with the ground that way - a plus when you only have occassional patches of ice, a minus (obviously) when there's a really large amount of ice. But adjusting the psi is a heck of a lot less work than taking an entire tire on and off. :-)
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