Is it or isn't it a race? Thank you NY Times.
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No start line, no finish line, no course, no rules, no competitors, no awards, different types of bikes, . . . other than those minor issues, commuting to work a race.
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My bike isn't really built for speed (dyno hub, fenders, racks, panniers, etc). I do try to catch people now and then just for fun. If someone passes me I usually just let them go.
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I am slightly competitive, if I see someone coming from behind I will pick up the speed and try to stay ahead. Also if I pass more people than people pass me I figure I won the race to work.
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I am the slow guy that all of you pass every morning. Your wife/girlfriend pays me off in starbucks gift cards everytime you pass because it helps your self esteem which translates into better performance later on. I will remember to pretend to pass someone and then let them speed up and drop me, might have to get paid extra for that.
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I am the slow guy that all of you pass every morning. Your wife/girlfriend pays me off in starbucks gift cards everytime you pass because it helps your self esteem which translates into better performance later on. I will remember to pretend to pass someone and then let them speed up and drop me, might have to get paid extra for that.
I see a lawsuit coming.
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I rarely feel competitive about it, but people going fast near me do subconsciously get me going faster. I usually slow down as soon as I notice how fast I've gotten. I want to get to work comfortable and relatively dry, so pushing too hard is not in my best interest.
Occasionally I do it out of anger, when someone seems to be going out of their way to be a jerk on a bike and thinks he is justified because he is going faster. One time, while riding on a very wide, fairly empty paved path, I pulled up next to my commuting buddy to have a little chat. There was no one visible in front of us, and there is enough room at that part of the path for 5 bikes to pass comfortably. This guy in spandex with a messenger bag actually shot between us. He was so close I could feel him, and it was definitely closer than you should get to someone without at least some warning.
I was wearing a nice pair of trousers and a tucked in shirt, loaded down with panniers, but that was too much. I excused myself from my friend for a moment and took off in pursuit. My computer was reading about 25mph at one point, which is quite a bit faster than I normally ride on my commute, but I managed to keep up. When he was finally forced to stop for traffic, I was right there next to him and I launched into a lecture about what he did wrong. He blew me off (in fact, he probably heard very little of it: he was wearing headphones the whole time), but it felt good
Definitely the most intense commuting race I ever had, partially made so by my outfit and load.
Occasionally I do it out of anger, when someone seems to be going out of their way to be a jerk on a bike and thinks he is justified because he is going faster. One time, while riding on a very wide, fairly empty paved path, I pulled up next to my commuting buddy to have a little chat. There was no one visible in front of us, and there is enough room at that part of the path for 5 bikes to pass comfortably. This guy in spandex with a messenger bag actually shot between us. He was so close I could feel him, and it was definitely closer than you should get to someone without at least some warning.
I was wearing a nice pair of trousers and a tucked in shirt, loaded down with panniers, but that was too much. I excused myself from my friend for a moment and took off in pursuit. My computer was reading about 25mph at one point, which is quite a bit faster than I normally ride on my commute, but I managed to keep up. When he was finally forced to stop for traffic, I was right there next to him and I launched into a lecture about what he did wrong. He blew me off (in fact, he probably heard very little of it: he was wearing headphones the whole time), but it felt good
Definitely the most intense commuting race I ever had, partially made so by my outfit and load.
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I wish I saw other cyclists on my way to work. I see 1 or 2 a week maybe. They are rarely heading my same direction. I passed one a few days back, but it didnt do much for my self esteem. It was one of the guys pedaling the mexican helados carts that probably weigh 75lbs
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It is easy to be great in a field of one. In order to race there would have to be someone else around.
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I race in two situations:
1) When I'm pulling out from a traffic light that just turned green and another cyclist who obviously timed it just right passes me in the intersection I can't let it go. If I think I'm faster, I let him get out in front of me a ways and wait for a hill, just to maximize the demoralization factor. (I know, it's petty and sad.)
2) When someone passes me who is obviously faster than I am, I put in the extra effort to try to keep up. In this case, my motives are much better, as it's mainly myself that I'm challenging. In the rare event that I do keep the pace in this scenario, I don't pass unless the other cyclist appears to want me to.
In general, I don't even pass other cyclists unless they're going much slower than I would and/or it seems like I'm making them uncomfortable by being behind them.
1) When I'm pulling out from a traffic light that just turned green and another cyclist who obviously timed it just right passes me in the intersection I can't let it go. If I think I'm faster, I let him get out in front of me a ways and wait for a hill, just to maximize the demoralization factor. (I know, it's petty and sad.)
2) When someone passes me who is obviously faster than I am, I put in the extra effort to try to keep up. In this case, my motives are much better, as it's mainly myself that I'm challenging. In the rare event that I do keep the pace in this scenario, I don't pass unless the other cyclist appears to want me to.
In general, I don't even pass other cyclists unless they're going much slower than I would and/or it seems like I'm making them uncomfortable by being behind them.
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The other night I'm riding home up a rather long and variable twisty hill and I see a headlight behind me. Way back there. So, I pick it up a notch. A couple bends later I see they are a little closer, sooo, I pick it up some more.
Huf huf huf
Look back again and he's still gaining on me.
So.
I've got 1 more turn in the hill and I stand on it! I'm short of puking but not by much.
Next turn HE'S STILL THERE, and gaining!
So.
I come to the realization that this must be some cat 2 biker and I back off, admitting defeat and wait for the inevitable blow by of a superior rider.
Then I am passed by a fellow maybe 10 years my senior, (and I'm no spring chicken but I am in pretty good shape) sitting upright, casually pedaling along on his ELECTRIC assisted bike!
I tried not to sound too winded when I said "hi" as he passed.
Sheesh
Huf huf huf
Look back again and he's still gaining on me.
So.
I've got 1 more turn in the hill and I stand on it! I'm short of puking but not by much.
Next turn HE'S STILL THERE, and gaining!
So.
I come to the realization that this must be some cat 2 biker and I back off, admitting defeat and wait for the inevitable blow by of a superior rider.
Then I am passed by a fellow maybe 10 years my senior, (and I'm no spring chicken but I am in pretty good shape) sitting upright, casually pedaling along on his ELECTRIC assisted bike!
I tried not to sound too winded when I said "hi" as he passed.
Sheesh
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That's true. I did a Monday night PIR race last summer and it was excellent. Good, hard, clean racing on excellent pavement. A great time.
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That's funny. That happened to me once, except I was chasing the guy on the electric bike. It didn't dawn on me until later why his rack looked funny. I was catching him on a flat stretch and planned to pass just as we got to a hill. I gave it everything I had, but just couldn't close the gap.
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Yeah, the scene here is fantastic, but the real treasure is our officials. Where else do CX races get scored (and corrected, if necessary) 200+ deep?
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This summer, I passed a woman on an electric-assist bike going uphill, but she was letting the bike do all the work (and the bike sounded like it was working pretty hard).
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I race, but only if I have a fighting chance - and I usually do, even if I don't 'win' in the end. It's really embarrassing, but there's is this one fixed gear guy, who completely smokes my a$$... I completely gave up. It's a mystery to me how somebody with one stupid gear can be that fast. I guess his knees will be toast in 10 yrs.
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Any one else do this? I used to find myself "racing" other commuters, but now I very rarely see another soul on a bike. Any CAT 6 racers out there want to share their stories?
My commute is the bulk of a high-intensity low volume training program which is at most an individual time trial.
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Everyone passes me. The wannabe racers never utter a word when doing do, but many of the ones sporting actual team kit usually say something in passing.
Maybe there's a fantasy prime out there for guys who overtake a rider on a 32-pound steel touring bike that's equipped with panniers...
Maybe there's a fantasy prime out there for guys who overtake a rider on a 32-pound steel touring bike that's equipped with panniers...