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Old 11-10-04, 02:07 PM
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Cyclists arm trapped in car engine

This just happened in Portland today. Sounds like the guy actually got pretty lucky.

https://www.koin.com/news.asp?ID=1601
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Old 11-10-04, 02:34 PM
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She said there was no time to stop.
Yeah, there never is when you're not looking for anything smaller than another cage.
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Old 11-10-04, 03:05 PM
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I hate to say it, but it makes me wonder if the cyclist wasn't riding wrecklessly and taking a risk by cutting between the two cars. Unfortunate either way.
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Old 11-10-04, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Tree Trunk
I hate to say it, but it makes me wonder if the cyclist wasn't riding wrecklessly and taking a risk by cutting between the two cars. Unfortunate either way.
No, since there was a collision, it wasn't "wreckless"... *giggle* But the cyclist may have been reckless in his behaviour!
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Old 11-10-04, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Becca
No, since there was a collision, it wasn't "wreckless"... *giggle* But the cyclist may have been reckless in his behaviour!
Good one! It took me a second to get that (kind of punch drunk from work today).
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Old 11-10-04, 05:39 PM
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I love a good pun, and the bigger the groan (or laugh!) the better!

Not that the bicyclist's predicament is in the least bit funny. If it had been me, I'd have been *terrified*!
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Old 11-10-04, 06:08 PM
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I think he's counting his lucky stars considering his injuries were supposedly minor.
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Old 11-10-04, 07:06 PM
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From the description, it sounds like the biker was doing everything right - there was a car in front of the one that hit him, probably blocking her view of the cyclist. When that car moved out of the way, she made the turn and hit the cyclist head on...
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Old 11-10-04, 07:11 PM
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Totally agree it was completely the drivers fault not the cyclist
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Old 11-10-04, 07:37 PM
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The driver was driving badly and hit the cyclist! What more do they need to know?!
Stupid investigations and police buisness.
I should be a policeman- I'd ban people from doing bad things especially against the cycling fandom!
Death penalty (Or something worse!) for murder when a car is involved.

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Old 11-10-04, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hi565
Totally agree it was completely the drivers fault not the cyclist
I'm amazed that the article even included the part about failure to yield. They also didn't cover whether the guy wa swearing a helmet or not!! I hope the guy turns out all right and heals from the injuries.
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Old 11-10-04, 09:43 PM
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The bigger question is how to avoid having the same thing happen to you/me
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Old 11-10-04, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dchiefransom
I'm amazed that the article even included the part about failure to yield. They also didn't cover whether the guy wa swearing a helmet or not!! I hope the guy turns out all right and heals from the injuries.
I think you missed something; the failure to yield was the driver's fault, not the cyclist's.
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Old 11-10-04, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon_Clark
Death penalty (Or something worse!) for murder when a car is involved.
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??? Oh, I get it. Make the chubby out-of-shape murdering cager ride continuously pushing a big cog up the near 20% grade of Brasstown Bald Mtn here in Ga. In August. Wearing Goretex. At least Dante would appreciate that.
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Old 11-11-04, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Becca
I think you missed something; the failure to yield was the driver's fault, not the cyclist's.
Nada. She didn't yield because she didn't see the cyclist. If it had been a dump truck, law-breaker or not she would've yielded. The cyclist is nearly 'dead-right'.

Again the real question is...why didn't the driver see him?

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Because there was a car in front of her, and she was not only having to look through her own windshield, but the windows of the car in front of her to see the road ahead. Since she couldn't see any cars, she turned as soon as the car in front of her moved. Which is when she finally saw the cyclist. It's a line of sight thing.

I try to look out for it - if I'm coming up to an intersection behind the last car, and there is someone about to turn left across my path behind that car, I assume they don't see me, and slow down in case they gun it as soon as the car I'm following passes.
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Old 11-11-04, 12:42 AM
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A couple of things didn't ring true in the story so I used the coordinates to find the scene of the accident.

Portland bikers do you know the neighborhood of 27thAVE and Powell in SE Portland, OR?

Mapquest came up with this...but the guy couldn't have been going S. Bound because the street doesn't go through.

https://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...rchtab=address
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Old 11-11-04, 12:55 AM
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You can go to https://imageatlas.globexplorer.com/I...oup=ImageAtlas to look that address up for a satellite view of the area. No cross street there...
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Amazing how we can all glean so much information from a couple of lines gathered up by some cub reporter.
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Originally Posted by dobber
Amazing how we can all glean so much information from a couple of lines gathered up by some cub reporter.
I agree. There's hardly any info in that article and just about anything we can come up with is conjecture.
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Originally Posted by Becca
I think you missed something; the failure to yield was the driver's fault, not the cyclist's.
That's what I meant. Most articles on bike accidents leave who's at fault hanging, until the public forgets about it.
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Old 11-11-04, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tree Trunk
I hate to say it, but it makes me wonder if the cyclist wasn't riding wrecklessly and taking a risk by cutting between the two cars. Unfortunate either way.
She made a left turn without yieldig so I am presuming he was on comming traffic.
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How could the driver not have seen him? Bike lanes are a possible culprit. The picture makes this look like a major intersection. If it was 26th and not 27th (which appears unlikley because Powell and 27th don't meet according to Mapquest, Yahoo and Microsoft Streets), then the 26th Street bike lane may have been at fault. See this map of bike lanes in SE Portland.

Portland has created a series of mandatory death alleys for cyclists to ride in. Cyclists can get cited for not using them. The idea is to keep us out of the stream of traffic. One of the risks of keeping us out of traffic is that cars don't see us at intersections. This guy may have paid the price for Portland's bike lane lunacy.

Edit: We were right. This was not 27th and Powell. It was 26th and Powell. See this article from another local station.

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Old 11-11-04, 09:53 PM
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I hate to stereotype but...
"The driver, 69-year-old Sharon Parker, was cited for making a dangerous left turn. She said there was no time to stop."
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Wow, I'm amazed a paper actually said the driver failed to yield, placing them at fault. This may be a first, even if it isn't completely showing her at fault.
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