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Old 08-12-11 | 08:28 AM
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I believe you when you tell me that your offspring studied this and his/her figure are correct.
I am pretty damned proud to have one daughter who actually understands how a car works and can do her own preventative and basic maintenance!

Too bad that my wife, youngest daughter and two sons are not nearly as mechanically inclined.
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Old 08-12-11 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnJ80
Did she do it all in inflation adjusted dollars? I'd love to see the numbers.

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Yes she did. I'll ask her to email me her dissertation and let me quote some portions here.
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Old 08-12-11 | 11:23 AM
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For instance, I love indexed shifting. I would hate to go back to friction shifting (except maybe on the front derailleur). But with indexed shifting, when something goes wrong (and, granted, it often does) I can easily fix it, usually without even stopping the bike. With electronic shifting, it sounds like the system is designed to be able to adjust itself, and that's fantastic. You could probably go years without having to worry about it. But when it breaks is it going to be something I can fix, or am I going to be dropping $500 for a replacement part?
To the extent that something actually breaks and is not just out of adjustment, no, you probably will not be able to fix it and will have to buy a replacement part... just like you would a part on your indexing system.

I.e.: If your STI brake/shifter goes south, you'll probably have to replace it (unless it's Campy...); same with Di2. Di2 might even be a bit more serviceable, where you can order a replacement lever with the shift buttons rather than just a mechanical brake lever, no shifter guts.

If you crash and mangle your rear der, I'm not sure of too many you could actually service with replacement parts -- you're replacing the entire derailleur whether traditional or Di2. Cost is higher for the electronic shifting components...

But if you're just talking adjustment, you can do the same kind of rear der trim on electronic stuff that you can do on mechanical stuff, while riding, from the cockpit. No front der adjustment as it keys off the RD, unless there's an issue with the limit screws. ...in which case you are getting off the bike to futz with whether you have mechanical or electronic shifting.
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Old 08-15-11 | 05:17 PM
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I thought this new article from Velonews was worth pointing out to anyone interested in electronic shifting. It claims that Ultegra Di2 is better then Dura Ace Di2, at half the cost.

https://velonews.competitor.com/2011/...um=most-viewed
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Old 08-15-11 | 06:06 PM
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I suspect that it would have cost me a lot more (inflation adjusted) dollars to get my old slant six Valiant to 265K miles - including I don't know how many engine re-builds.
Didn't think I would see one of those mentioned on BF, let alone anywhere else! Our own '75 Valiant's slant-six outlasted the rest of the car. Took us on a three-week journey around the eastern half of the US in '84, too. I don't remember its mileage when we sold it in the late 80's (might have had it till 1990), but it went to a farmer who said it would be a good starter car for his daughter.
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