To get a response.

But I think a less trollish way to put the idea is: bike locks aren't full proof, somebody can steal other bike parts even if they can't get your bike, and it's best never to leave your bike by its lonesome, if that's possible. For example, my road bike is a free spirit, and doesn't like being tied down. I love that bike too much to risk locking her up. Instead, I go for rides, but only leave her unattended inside my house. Anyway, that's the non trolling translation.

Car locks must be for morons too.

IQ = stupid

People who lock their bikes are well aware that they are still at risk. The lock somewhat reduces the risk. Only a moron would assume that people who lock their bike don't understand this simple concept.

Yes, they are. I had a car stolen. But I claim it's harder to steal a car than it is a bicycle.

and I claim it's hardeR to steal a locked bicycle than an unlocked one, even if only modestly so.


there's that bold red letter "R" again. it's important.

Yeah I'm a good idiot... because I am self-aware.

If you lose your keys....yep

I guess that tells us what we need to know

Yes it does. But you can't take a car in with you -- while a bike you can.

I can't take bikes in with me. Plus they can get stolen from inside a building too.

fify

How much is your deductible?

Just Monday I had to stop a/t autoparts store to pick up some things. The store has big floor-to-ceiling windows. I forgot my bike lock. So, I used my helmet. Looping it through the rear wheel and around the seat tube. My gearing was left @ 50x12...the biggest gear combo the bike has. Then I left both calipers in the closed position(my levers are equipped w/a retention pin allowing one to 'lock' the wheels like a BMX). Then I leaned it against the window pinning the front wheel behind a heavy trash can. In short I did eveything I could to make my main loaded commuter/utility bike as difficult to 'jump on and ride off with' as possible. It was still there when I came out 15 mins later. Pretty stupid, I guess.

Oh, then I'm stupid two times over because I repeated the process a/t grocery store/bank a few minutes later.

My head hurts from all the intellectual pounding I'm taking as a result of these questionable decisions being made lately regarding my bicycle security. Glad I found this thread. I feel like I'm all straightened out now.

Why?

I believe most home owner insurance covers this too.

It's actually moderately easy. You can do it with only a flat tip screwdriver, and have it gone in a minute or two.

So, I'd say, thieving a locked car is about on par with thieving a locked bike. The car is just easier to get back due to license plates, and cops actually pay attention to stolen car reports.

Threads like this make my brain hurt.

I guess I do find it ironic that the only bike I do lock up when I ride it, is my least expensive bike. I wouldn't leave my roadbikes anywhere where I couldn't see them, and never far enough away that I couldn't horsecollar anyone who tried to make off with one. The bike I use for errands I lock up because I like it enough that I don't want someone to be able to just sling a leg over it and ride away. It's not nice enough for anyone to spend the time and energy it would take to defeat the lock.

So, are bike locks for morons? I don't think so. Is it wise to lock up a really nice bike, and leave it for an extended period of time, and still expect the bike to be there when you get back? Same answer.

Passwords must be for morons too, like for your bank, and this forum.

Wow. gbiker has now equated bicycle locks with banking security. But you might be on to something with this forum.

Ban please?

I use Old Spice myself and if I had some -- I wouldn't loan it out.

not sure what the point is, and I was trying. Closed pending a move to trollheim