I broke out in a sweat, just looking at a picture of those jeans. Definitely not for me. The heaviest pants I'll wear when cycling are my Kuhl Crag Kanvas pants with the dreamy gusseted crotch, but that's only for short grocery runs.

I used to wear 514's, but now that I've been cycling for a few years, the thighs are getting wickedly tight.

Agreed about the guesseted crotch, it is the way to go. My Swrve jeans have the seamless gusseted crotch. That is one of the biggest selling points for me. So comfortable on and off the bike. I think that separates stuff made for actual cycle/active us vs regular jeans with some cycling items bolted on.

https://www.duluthtrading.com/store/m...ans/86069.aspx

these with an ankle strap is all I need

Exactly the same with me. Had to move up to a 33 waist just to fit my thighs. I've only tried the standard 511 though and not the Commuter pant with stretch added to the fabric. Don't think they'd be stretchy enough to fit though. Too bad as I ride in jeans all fall and winter.

I'm hoping these do well and they expand the Commuter line to include 513 and 514 cuts.

Nice idea, if you wear jeans on a bike. I never do. I get to work and throw regular pants over my spandex bibs. Not a problem since I have an easy AM ride in cool temps, so I am not stanky when I get there.

Life is too short to bike in jeans, and looking back, I don't know how I could have stood it.

Pretty much the conclusion my friends and I came to. If they truly wanted to make the pants for cyclists of all shapes and sizes 501 would have worked out much better. Although, I can see this being marketed more towards the younger crowd and possible casual fixed gear folks and/or riders with short commutes.

Yes they do. The specs actual benefit riders/commuters greatly. Furthermore, this is not cycling exclusive garments. They're meant to be worn on and off the bike. So you get more functionality out of it as opposed to something that is made specifically for commuting and would look out of place off a bike.

Personally I think these would make some awesome camping/trekking pants or pants to just travel around due to the dirt repellent, water resistant, and supposedly odor resistant treatment.

Pros

• Price
• Can we worn on and off the bike.
• Nanosphere is great. I can't speak on the odor resisting elements, but the resist to water, dirt, grime etc is pretty darn nice. Water beads off and dirt just wipes away. That being said remember these are water RESISTANT and not water proof.
• These pants are made with a small amount of Elastane. So those who can fit them comfortably will have some stretch for increased movement.
• Reflective detail on the cuff is nice, but almost negligible. I wish they did more with this.
• Double layered seat and back pockets. No idea if the crotch is also reinforced or not.
• Slim cut which means a tapered leg and more than likely no need to tuck pants into socks or use a trouser clip.

Cons

• Price
• Slim cut which many people will not be able to fit in
• Breathability appears to be non existent
• Possible crotch blowout (unless it is reinforced)

I've gone over to Sweatpants.. smooth surfaced fleeced Polyester doesn't look too bad.

but Im an old guy so the waist band flexibility is a real Plus

One other tip for folks... This is Levi's. Their inventory goes on sale in the blink of an eye. Furthermore, these pants are available through other retailers. At $78 yea it's kinda hard to swallow for some. I think given the technology used, the functionality, and the design makes $78 pretty reasonable in the grand scheme of things in regards to the cycling product world. However, with that being said these will be on sale just like the last release and everyone will be able to snatch them up for $50 or lower. Happens every time.

Where are these even available? Ive been looking for a pair to try on but have been out of luck so far

Not sure about the fit, but they look nicer than my Sporthills. Hard to beat the Sporthills for comfort, though.

No, and for that price I'm not even going to try them on.

levis 550s in totally soaked the first mile of a three mile commute, I swear they held 15 pounds of water per leg.

I ordered a pair of the Levi's so I'll let you know when I get to try them out for the first time how well I like them . . . or not.

I'm not a racer type so I don't think I'll have to worry about my legs not fitting. I have skinny legs anyway.

And I'm WAY too old to be mistaken for a hipster, so no worries there. Plus, no tats or piercings so for sure never was a hipster!

Rick / OCRR

https://shop.outlier.cc/shop/retail/4season-og-pant.html

I know these are expensive, but much less so when you consider:

1. They're so comfortable on and off the bike (temperature, stretch)
2. They're virtually waterproof.
3. They're virtually stain proof.
4. They're stink proof (rarely need washing; one pair will be enough unless you want to mix it up).
5. They look decent.
6. They show no apparent signs of cycling-related damage such as crotch erosion.

I have a pair of Swrv jeans and like them, but the Outlier are much more comfortable.

Whats the excuse for them being made only for people with short legs. Those would be floods on my "old" body "kiddo"?

Nice concept marketed towards "Young" people that eat nothing and get most of their calories from PBR. Not for the rest of us that need some room for the middle age spread and eat three squares a day.

LOL. Too true. Skinny jeans don't work for real cyclists.

If they made these in a classic cut, like 501's or 505's, I'd consider them.

This calls for measurements. I don't have big legs, but these Levi's other then relaxed fit, with my waist and inseam measurements are too tight to allow for movement. W32 X L30 X Thigh 24ish, no beer gut, but I do have a bubble butt.

These Levis are a great idea, but poorly executed, they need to be stretchy and synthetic so the crotch and other wear spots don't get eaten through in a few hundred mile.

They are for commuting, which means different things to different folks. 0-5 miles I can see these working well.

I do like Levis Commuter Trucker jacket, but again it's mostly cotton so breath-ability is still sub-par, and water retention will be a killer in an unexpected rain shower.

My 150miles a 5 day week commuting doesn't make me a real cyclist because I fit into skinny jeans?

These have come up before in various iterations. My take is why waste your money on stupid crap like this. I commute to work with regular cargo pants and/or shorts and have never thought: "You know what my commute needs, a designer pair of jeans!"

I think the seamless gusseted crotch is the most important issue for frequent cycling. The Levis don't have it. Diamond Gusset makes a large selection of jeans and shorts with a seamless crotch. Their market is ranchers and other horsemen who spend a lot of time in the saddle. I believe they sparked the idea for Rivendell's cycling pantswhich are really lightweight and casual looking. I use those all the time.

Marc

Still, if these are being marketed to the young urban crowd who are more "form than substance" where bicycling is concerned, that could be a good thing.

If it raises the status of bike culture vs car culture in the young, we'll all benefit.

I'm not going to bother with jeans like this, but I hope they sell 'em by the truckload to the twentysomethings.

Came here to post a similar thing. I commute 125 miles a week, 365 days a year, in 511s (in the rain, even! shocking!). I picked up a pair of these and am looking forward to seeing how rain resistant they are and whether the crotch wears through slower.

I have no problem spending more on a pair of pants that looks good, is comfortable, and will last a while. I like to have nice things.

Is this like how thin women aren't considered 'real' women by chubby-chasers?

I commute every day, and when it's below 5F I put on wind pants over my 'skinny jeans'. Maybe one day I'll graduate to 501s and join the ranks of 'real cyclists'. Haha.

Agree. I didn't know about the seamless gusseted crotch until I got my Swrve Cordura jeans. Don't think I ever want to go back to a regular crotch on my jeans.
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I would say jeans like this aren't only made for a commute to work. I cycle all around my neighborhood to go out to dinner, meet friends, get drinks, movies etc. This type of clothes are great for making every day life a little more cycle friendly.