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Old 06-18-12 | 01:05 PM
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Safest place for a laptop?

Here's my question: What's the long-term SAFEST way of transporting a laptop?

I have 2 bikes, and the one set up with a large Zimbale saddlebag seems like the safest. IF I were to crash, or fall, there shouldn't be too much of an impact on the bag itself and it's ability to sway a bit out to soften the blow to laptop. I've tried backpacks/messenger bags, but I'm worried that one crash could wipe out my expensive Macbook Pro if I were to land on my back. My 2nd bike has a pannier setup that seems pretty safe (low to the ground and all) but I heard that vibrations from the bike shorten a laptop's lifespan (is that even true??).

Did anyone pick one of these three systems and end up regretting it?
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Id guess the weak link is the hardrive if i was you id replace it with a ssd.There pretty cheap right now
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I've carried a laptop in a pannier across some fairly rough terrain for years without noticeable impact on the computer. I use a laptop-specific pannier with padded liner, but I don't think it matters that much.
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Seems like even a saddle bag would have the same vibrations as a pannier. Only the backpack/messenger bag would have you as a shock absorber to cut the vibrations. Going to a solid state memory would solve that problem. As always, I think whatever you decide a regular backup protocol is key.
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Old 06-18-12 | 03:36 PM
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Id guess the weak link is the hardrive if i was you id replace it with a ssd.There pretty cheap right now
I suspect this is true. The only thing that should really be affected by vibration is the hard drive, and spending the money on solid state might save you that problem.

But I carry around a laptop that's been traveling by pannier for about a decade - I'm now the 4th cyclist in possession - and just drop it a pannier. Still works fine. Mind you, I don't really care if it stops working - I've gotten my $0 worth of use out of it, and important files are synced to dropbox, so HD failure isn't a problem for me.
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Make sure it's off, toss it in a pannier. Been doing it for years.
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Old 06-18-12 | 05:04 PM
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laptop off = no spinning = no problem with a hdd

ssd is overkill (for this particular problem, at least)
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Old 06-18-12 | 06:02 PM
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If you have a HD, then power it all the way down before transporting it. Might want to slide a thin foam pad or microfiber rag/towel between the keys and display.

Or use a thumb drive and/or the 'cloud' to synch between home and office and not even carry the MBP...
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^this. I don't carry mine unless I have to do a presentation that day.
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Old 06-19-12 | 02:14 AM
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Bring the thumb drive/ SD card instead?
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Old 06-19-12 | 04:26 AM
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if you have to take it, wrap up with a shirt and put in panniers.
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Old 06-19-12 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
laptop off = no spinning = no problem with a hdd

ssd is overkill (for this particular problem, at least)
Doesn't matter it's spinning or not, it will be damaged if you give it a good bang.

SSD is not overkill. Get it and forget it. Also use cloud storage solution as a backup.
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Old 06-19-12 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by linus
Doesn't matter it's spinning or not, it will be damaged if you give it a good bang.

SSD is not overkill. Get it and forget it. Also use cloud storage solution as a backup.
For the price of a high-quality SSD, I just bought a used iMac (500€). Syncing/back-up via cloud. And I don't have to lug a laptop with a tiny screen around.
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Old 06-25-12 | 05:00 PM
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Laptop sleeve

Check out Swiss Army laptop sleeves. https://www.amazon.com/Victorinox-Swi.../dp/B000HI2WME They provide rigid padded sides to protect against crush damage (e.g. in a crowded case) that extends beyond the edge of the laptop to protect the edges. An elastic suspension system at the bottom protects against drops. There are (or were last time I checked) landscape and portrait orientated models for shoulder bags or backpacks and are reasonably light.
Hard drives are quite rugged and, esp when turned off (with the heads therefore locked) and should be immune from normal vibration and shocks. Most newer PC laptops instantly lock the heads when they sense dropping. Consumer SSDs are slow & small and expensive per GB.
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Old 06-27-12 | 10:20 PM
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I had the same concerns and found Pelican cases, which are totally crushproof and waterproof. My case (Pelican 1085 for my 13" MacBook") is large and bulky but very worthwhile. I think you can find 'em on eBay for ~$75.
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Old 06-27-12 | 10:44 PM
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ssd will blow ya mind in the speed change you will get.i have 1 in both my computers they are so much cheaper now then in march when i got mine
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Old 06-28-12 | 07:16 AM
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I've got a 1500.00 laptop, i keep it on my back Targus has a nice backpack with pockets for my phone, plenty of room for clothes and a breathable mesh lining on my back so its not to bad. SSD all the way btw, they're so cheap now. Nothing like having windows bootup in 8-10 seconds and be ready to go, sleep mode is almost instant wake.
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Old 06-28-12 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dvald001
Here's my question: What's the long-term SAFEST way of transporting a laptop?
Not transporting it.

Better options are
1. Using cloud synchronization software
2. A thumb drive with your files
3. A thumb drive with a virtual machine you fire up at work or home

If you do need one laptop the next safest option is an on-site service contract so that when it breaks you're not down for long. I had three mainboards replaced under warranty (I think some solder joints failed on the graphics chip and would speculate that it had a heavy heat sink hanging off it. After the first failure the replacements were all re-works and presumably had more fatigue cycles on that joint when I received them) and one failed hard-drive in my last laptop which I'd used for about two years.

I had my first mainboard + heat sink assembly replacement at the one year mark on my current laptop due to a failed thermal interface which led to emergency shutdowns when the CPU hit 100 degrees C.

I transported the first one in a nice Targus laptop backpack. I move the second one around in an Arkel Commuter pannier with a suspended laptop pouch. In both cases I was riding a road bike on decent roads 20-25 miles a day 4 days a week with 25mm tires at 90-95 psi front and 95-100 psi rear. The pannier is much nicer and I regret not switching sooner - I arrive at work much drier and am more comfortable on the way in.

Did anyone pick one of these three systems and end up regretting it?
I just accept that any laptop is going to fail so I spend the few hundred dollars extra for on-site next business day service (which usually ends up being two business days).

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My experience is that road shock is a bigger enemy to your computer than an imagined crash. I go with a backpack. On bad potholes you can get off the saddle and cushion the blow with your legs. In general, anything trying to shake your computer has to shake you as well, so your mass acts as a shock absorber.

This is not just anecdotal. I used to use my bike to carry military spec electronics as part of my job. The failure rate of chips carried on my bike was much higher. Chips carried in my backpack never failed.
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Old 06-28-12 | 08:26 PM
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i keep it on my back
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I go with a backpack.
Three of us. I like having some weight on my back. It's probably the most vibration free arrangement. I'm not too sure about relative laptop safety, but any arrangement will have some risk.
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Old 06-28-12 | 09:13 PM
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one crash could wipe out my expensive Macbook Pro if I were to land on my back.
I think landing on a back is one of the least likely places to land. It has never happened to me.

On the head is much more common from a bicycle accident. If you are going at a decent speed and the bike is stopped suddenly, your legs get brushed up as you go over the handlebars. That starts your body rotating, and landing on the head becomes very likely.

That one did happen to me. Details here, helmets. It wasn't pretty.
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This is it: https://www.arkel-od.com/us/commuting-bike-bag.html

It suspends the laptop in a sleeve that doesn't hit the bottom of the bag, so vibration is minimized. I've been using one since January and I'm really happy with it. I tried carrying it in my backpack and that was pretty uncomfortable for more than a short distance.
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I think landing on a back is one of the least likely places to land. It has never happened to me.

On the head is much more common from a bicycle accident. If you are going at a decent speed and the bike is stopped suddenly, your legs get brushed up as you go over the handlebars. That starts your body rotating, and landing on the head becomes very likely.

That one did happen to me. Details here, helmets. It wasn't pretty.
That may be true but landing on your back does happen. It happened to me this week. My CamelBak has the scratches to prove it. I was always nervous putting my iPad in my backpack and I am glad I stopped that practice because it would be a shattered mess now.

Just a forewarning.
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Here's my question: What's the long-term SAFEST way of transporting a laptop?

I have 2 bikes, and the one set up with a large Zimbale saddlebag seems like the safest. IF I were to crash, or fall, there shouldn't be too much of an impact on the bag itself and it's ability to sway a bit out to soften the blow to laptop. I've tried backpacks/messenger bags, but I'm worried that one crash could wipe out my expensive Macbook Pro if I were to land on my back. My 2nd bike has a pannier setup that seems pretty safe (low to the ground and all) but I heard that vibrations from the bike shorten a laptop's lifespan (is that even true??).

Did anyone pick one of these three systems and end up regretting it?
The main issue that I have with transporting a laptop is weight. As a commuter you're already hauling a fair amount of weight in clothing, food, incidentals that you may need to perform your job. So adding 15 pounds of laptop, computer accessories, and laptop bag just isn't worth it. As others have mentioned, there's far better options. However, if I absolutely, positively had to carry a laptop it would be worth my while to trailer it. I don't want it in a pannier where it can be crushed or G-shocked and I certainly wouldn't want it on my back, cutting into my shoulders. Plus, in a trailer is far more likely to survive if the bike goes over or I go over the bars...either way. Sure, you could carry your laptop in a pelican case; however, again, that's adding more weight.
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Backpack. I only go short distances so that may play into your decision. As mentioned in earlier posts, I feel I can best protect my laptop from serious shocks this way. I have a not inexpensive machine.
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