Yeah lie instead of educate. Do everyone a favor and dont have kids. No wonder most Americans are f#cked up.

If you dont want to educate, dont b*tch about it.

The op is assuming this person will not listen. But she never tried so how the he11 does anyone know it wont work? I would try solving this issue myself first.

Cops dont do ****e, from experience. In my 5'3" experience the ******s that say something to a female cyclist are just looking for an easy target, never give them the enjoyment. There's nothing scarier than an angry woman, ask any man, other than a random female stranger that's Kujo enough to take on a stranger.

Like Chef said, every time they are confronted, in my experience, you earn respect. I can definitely see how a black eye can influence your view, though. So in that vein follow your gut or just 'chick" him

Cat is the toughest women I know. Take a hint from her, she does things right.

Miss you girl!

The OP and others assume the police will not respond or take any action no matter what the OP tells them. Great Monday Morning Quarterbacking BEFORE the game is even played.

on a non related topic, I like your handle name. Spells out my life. lol.

I dont know why people have a problem with you . . You are a rare voice of reason in dork-a-paloozas such as this. From the first post on, the OP has said she is going to illegally assault someone she doesnt even know. One other voice of reason asked her why she wouldnt just talk to the guy, and Ms Mensa suggests she doesnt want to risk an attack. Huh ?!?!?! Most people getting hit with a Airzzound horn would firmly insert the broken parts in any number of Ms Mensa's orifices.
After many posts of this ridiculousness, the pocket protected video game basement dwelling revengers get their horn-rimmed coke bottles all steamed up reading that a surprise illegal assault is not a rational solution to what is not a problem to a more rational and civil person. Again, bicycle riders in the USA are why bicycle riders in the USA will never get respect.

I can see this and would agree. I am reading a book called The Enlightened Cyclist. Great read and the part I am on now talks about cycling in the US and how it is so much different then other counties and lack of respect for fellow riders ,etc. Interesting read if you ever get time to read it 8.

A guy riding the wrong way in my lane, putting me in danger, isn't worthy of respect. An airzound blast is a perfectly appropriate, legal response to a schmuck breaking the rules of cycling and endangering, at the least inconveniencing, people riding responsibly. It isn't my obligation to educate this turd or any other turd, it's his obligation to follow the rules. Salmon aren't poor, innocent cyclists in need of my encouragement...they're an obstacle and an inconvenience to overcome. I also categorically reject their poor, ignorant, innocent portrayal...the lanes have large arrows indicating the correct flow of traffic. These are inconsiderate, ignorant a-holes who do it out of a misguided feeling of safety or to deliberately be annoying...and many times I suspect it's the later. Regardless of the reason - the onus is on them to follow the rules. If they don't, an airzound is a mild response.

I have no interest in being polite to those that are putting me in danger and putting the responsibility on me to correct their poor behavior is absurd. I also can't think of a quicker lesson than an airzound (short of being forced into traffic).

As for calling the cops. Yea you can try it but it will likely be ignored. I speak from experience. A few months ago I was commuting home from school on the mup. As I hit a certain spot a few riders passing the other way warned me about a ped throwing rocks at cyclists. So I proceeded with caution and saw the ped in question. He indeed was throwing rocks at cyclists. So, I stopped before I encountered him and called the cops. I got hung up on twice as soon as I mentioned the situation. Another cyclist who actually had been hit with a rock came over to me and he also called the cops. Again same thing, he got hung up on. SO cops dont seem to care about cyclist related incidents unless it involves a crash or something that absolutely cannot be ignored.

Now in regards to the use of an airzound I think your just as likely if not more to get into a fight for using it than for attempting to talk to the salmon.

Awesome ! :thumb:

I will. Thank you !

Here is what I am reading, also recommended :beer:

http://jimsbikeblog.files.wordpress....-cyclist-2.jpg

Don't assume that just because your local PD acts a certain way, that *all* PD's will do that.

No offense, but this seems unreasonably paranoid. You really think telling someone not to bike on the left side of the road is going to be the trigger for them to assault you and become your stalker?

Sounds like you already solved your own problem by buying the airzound.

While your correct that not all will act the same as DPD I bet that most would. Plus as I said at the beginning of that post yea you can try it. What I was saying is that don't call with the expectation that they are going to do something about it; they may then again they probably wont.

I seriously doubt the guy is intentionally trying to go out and be a menace. I would just yell "woah, wrong side of the road guy" and act really surprised every time you see him. Give him plenty of room, but make it clear he's the one out of place. That's really all you have time for in such a situation. You have to be able to communicate that he's on the wrong side quickly and clearly. Its a nuisance, but I don't really see how its a huge danger to get too worked up over.

I've been looking into bike lights lately and some of these are blindingly bright. Just get some 1200 lumen spotlight and shine it directly in his eyes.

I had a guy come at me about a year ago, some jerk that was a lot bigger than I was. I stood my ground and made him go out into the oncoming traffic.

I have a grand kid on the way smart guy and believe it or not his family is going to be the people educating him not some do-goody stranger who actually believes it's their job to preach what they think it right. JUST like I taught his mother to be weary of any stranger I will teach the next generation to be weary of common sense. it's not as common as people would like you to believe and it's usually reserved to pull the wool over the eyes of the weak minded. if you believe people that don't agree with you are the reason this country is, what was that word you used? foul mouth little twerp aren't you. no need wasting my time responding to profanity, who taught you that was ok anyway?

I don't think it's the OP role in life to educate either. did you even read the OP!? the guy is big (grown man) the guy is fast, the guy is intent on maintaining his position on the wrong side of the road. when was this education of yours suppose to take place? my advice is only a half lie and how long before fog rider does send someone to the hospital anyway? your advice has a woman attempting to reverse direction, catch up to someone she can't catch up to and somehow relate the wisdom that will make this guy stop doing what he clearly enjoys doing, you know some people really do hate everybody and some of those people ride bikes.
call the police have them do their job and leave the teaching to this idiot, chefisaac who thinks he can tell a grown man how to behave and have him behave.

was she suppose to educate as they crossed paths? wouldn't that sounds a lot like - hey stop riding on the . . .

Can you borrow a MagicShine or similar powerful headldight? Aim it straight at him.

Don in Austin

your posts point out the rub, some, many but not all police forces are useless, Denver would lead the list in my book, they are one of the reasons I will never enter the city and county of. and the air horn would work great! until the next time, when kingfish plays how close I can really get. this guy has heard it before, if people really think absolutely no one has yelled at him before now, think again.

Agreed.:(

On the flip side, my next-door neighbor is an avid cyclist, *and* he is a cop here on the Broomfield PD. I sometimes see bike racks on the back of some of the local patrol cars, and just last week encountered a local cop patroling on a bike.:thumb:

Cyclists are just like any other large group of people. There are all kinds and stripes of personalities. Most people within any civil group are going to attempt to abide by traditional social etiquette or rules set by society. When you find a renegade misfit, you're instinct should not necessarily be to approach and correct, because you have no idea just how socially estranged this misfit might really be. You have no idea concerning the extent of his mental deficit.

Is he crazy or just misguided?..If he is crazy, then how crazy is he? ...Is he crazy enough to attempt to verbally assault or physically attack me?..Perhaps he's not really crazy...Maybe he just has that crazy look in his eyes as he speeds down the street the wrong way?...But isn't that crazy, to be speeding the wrong way, placing others in danger? ...Why doesn't he consider this fact?...Perhaps he's crazy afterall...

Well that's alright, I'll just ride up beside him anyway and inform him that he's cycling in the WRONG direction and placing others in danger in the process...Perhaps he'll just thank me for informing him of this newly discovered information that he somehow has never heard of before....

NOT!

OP, mind your own business. Your are not a trained psychiatrist, psychologist, or the crazies whisperer...Don't try to correct the obviously wayward misfits, mentally deranged, and criminally insane people of the world. Leave that up to the professionals, the executive branch of government, or at least guys who are bigger than you are, who are game for action.

Peace

"...traditional social etiquette..."

Huh?
The bicycle is a vehicle and is required by law to obey the same rules as any other vehicle.
If we found a motorist driving the wrong way on a street, would we be discussing "traditional social etiquette"???
It is breaking the law and endangering others.

Sir,

I said, "..or rules set by society". Believe it or not, those are laws. ;)

Aren't we on the same side?

OK, when you referenced "etiquette" I thought you were talking about just that, and not laws.

Will you be endangering me when you do it?

I actually know some of the city cops around by sight/name because I work in the ER. Maybe next time they bring a drunk in for us to dry out I'll tell them the situation and see what they say. They're nice guys, but well, VERY small town cops.

It's funny, I'll bellyache about them online, but IRL I'm usually very Zen about salmon - you have to be in this town, since they outnumber the cyclists who go the correct direction. But before this, I've never had an encounter that didn't go like this - either catch salmon's eye/ding bell for attention, I move over a bit, they move the other way a bit (or sometimes they move first, and I then move the other way) we pass with plenty of clearance and a friendly nod and go on our way. Even the tipsy fellows with rusty chains, flat tires, and a case of beer balanced on their handlebars manage this much.