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Shimagnolo 07-22-12 06:19 PM

Don't assume that just because your local PD acts a certain way, that *all* PD's will do that.

Omiak 07-22-12 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by kookaburra1701 (Post 14512444)
Or I might gain a black eye and a stalker. I've been down that road before, not going there again.

No offense, but this seems unreasonably paranoid. You really think telling someone not to bike on the left side of the road is going to be the trigger for them to assault you and become your stalker?

Sounds like you already solved your own problem by buying the airzound.

Mondo734 07-22-12 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Shimagnolo (Post 14514608)
Don't assume that just because your local PD acts a certain way, that *all* PD's will do that.

While your correct that not all will act the same as DPD I bet that most would. Plus as I said at the beginning of that post yea you can try it. What I was saying is that don't call with the expectation that they are going to do something about it; they may then again they probably wont.

pallen 07-22-12 07:07 PM

I seriously doubt the guy is intentionally trying to go out and be a menace. I would just yell "woah, wrong side of the road guy" and act really surprised every time you see him. Give him plenty of room, but make it clear he's the one out of place. That's really all you have time for in such a situation. You have to be able to communicate that he's on the wrong side quickly and clearly. Its a nuisance, but I don't really see how its a huge danger to get too worked up over.

zacster 07-22-12 07:26 PM

I've been looking into bike lights lately and some of these are blindingly bright. Just get some 1200 lumen spotlight and shine it directly in his eyes.

I had a guy come at me about a year ago, some jerk that was a lot bigger than I was. I stood my ground and made him go out into the oncoming traffic.

Rx Rider 07-22-12 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by chefisaac (Post 14514268)
Yeah lie instead of educate. Do everyone a favor and dont have kids. No wonder most Americans are f#cked up.
If you dont want to educate, dont b*tch about it.
The op is assuming this person will not listen. But she never tried so how the he11 does anyone know it wont work? I would try solving this issue myself first.

I have a grand kid on the way smart guy and believe it or not his family is going to be the people educating him not some do-goody stranger who actually believes it's their job to preach what they think it right. JUST like I taught his mother to be weary of any stranger I will teach the next generation to be weary of common sense. it's not as common as people would like you to believe and it's usually reserved to pull the wool over the eyes of the weak minded. if you believe people that don't agree with you are the reason this country is, what was that word you used? foul mouth little twerp aren't you. no need wasting my time responding to profanity, who taught you that was ok anyway?

I don't think it's the OP role in life to educate either. did you even read the OP!? the guy is big (grown man) the guy is fast, the guy is intent on maintaining his position on the wrong side of the road. when was this education of yours suppose to take place? my advice is only a half lie and how long before fog rider does send someone to the hospital anyway? your advice has a woman attempting to reverse direction, catch up to someone she can't catch up to and somehow relate the wisdom that will make this guy stop doing what he clearly enjoys doing, you know some people really do hate everybody and some of those people ride bikes.
call the police have them do their job and leave the teaching to this idiot, chefisaac who thinks he can tell a grown man how to behave and have him behave.

was she suppose to educate as they crossed paths? wouldn't that sounds a lot like - hey stop riding on the . . .

Don in Austin 07-22-12 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by kookaburra1701 (Post 14512384)
There's a dude that I encounter over and over again on my commute, and when I'm on training rides in the mornings on weekends. Head down, no lights or bright clothing (early in the morning we have lots of thick fog on the coast so this means I don't often see him until we're less than 10 yards away from each other.) Hammering on in the middle of the bike lane going the wrong way, and even when he sees people he doesn't swerve at all. Sadly, there's not much traffic at this time of the day so the problem likely won't solve itself.

I just bought an airzound after the last near miss with this jackass this morning. We'll see if that gives him a clue.:mad:

Can you borrow a MagicShine or similar powerful headldight? Aim it straight at him.

Don in Austin

Rx Rider 07-22-12 08:09 PM

your posts point out the rub, some, many but not all police forces are useless, Denver would lead the list in my book, they are one of the reasons I will never enter the city and county of. and the air horn would work great! until the next time, when kingfish plays how close I can really get. this guy has heard it before, if people really think absolutely no one has yelled at him before now, think again.

Shimagnolo 07-22-12 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Rx Rider (Post 14515018)
your posts point out the rub, some, many but not all police forces are useless, Denver would lead the list in my book, they are one of the reasons I will never enter the city and county of.

Agreed.:(

On the flip side, my next-door neighbor is an avid cyclist, *and* he is a cop here on the Broomfield PD. I sometimes see bike racks on the back of some of the local patrol cars, and just last week encountered a local cop patroling on a bike.:thumb:

SlimRider 07-22-12 08:31 PM

Cyclists are just like any other large group of people. There are all kinds and stripes of personalities. Most people within any civil group are going to attempt to abide by traditional social etiquette or rules set by society. When you find a renegade misfit, you're instinct should not necessarily be to approach and correct, because you have no idea just how socially estranged this misfit might really be. You have no idea concerning the extent of his mental deficit.

Is he crazy or just misguided?..If he is crazy, then how crazy is he? ...Is he crazy enough to attempt to verbally assault or physically attack me?..Perhaps he's not really crazy...Maybe he just has that crazy look in his eyes as he speeds down the street the wrong way?...But isn't that crazy, to be speeding the wrong way, placing others in danger? ...Why doesn't he consider this fact?...Perhaps he's crazy afterall...

Well that's alright, I'll just ride up beside him anyway and inform him that he's cycling in the WRONG direction and placing others in danger in the process...Perhaps he'll just thank me for informing him of this newly discovered information that he somehow has never heard of before....

NOT!

OP, mind your own business. Your are not a trained psychiatrist, psychologist, or the crazies whisperer...Don't try to correct the obviously wayward misfits, mentally deranged, and criminally insane people of the world. Leave that up to the professionals, the executive branch of government, or at least guys who are bigger than you are, who are game for action.

Peace

Shimagnolo 07-22-12 08:35 PM

"...traditional social etiquette..."

Huh?
The bicycle is a vehicle and is required by law to obey the same rules as any other vehicle.
If we found a motorist driving the wrong way on a street, would we be discussing "
traditional social etiquette"???
It is breaking the law and endangering others.

SlimRider 07-22-12 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by Shimagnolo (Post 14515098)
"...traditional social etiquette..."

Huh?
The bicycle is a vehicle and is required by law to obey the same rules as any other vehicle.
If we found a motorist driving the wrong way on a street, would we be discussing "
traditional social etiquette"???
It is breaking the law and endangering others.

Sir,

I said, "..or rules set by society". Believe it or not, those are laws. ;)

Aren't we on the same side?

Shimagnolo 07-22-12 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by SlimRider (Post 14515157)
Sir,

I said, "..or rules set by society". Believe it or not, those are laws. ;)

Aren't we on the same side?

OK, when you referenced "etiquette" I thought you were talking about just that, and not laws.

cooker 07-22-12 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by BadBoy10 (Post 14513353)
. If I violate one of the most sacred/holy/thou shalt nots of bicycling--please don't bother me.

Will you be endangering me when you do it?

kookaburra1701 07-22-12 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by Shimagnolo (Post 14515048)
Agreed.:(

On the flip side, my next-door neighbor is an avid cyclist, *and* he is a cop here on the Broomfield PD. I sometimes see bike racks on the back of some of the local patrol cars, and just last week encountered a local cop patroling on a bike.:thumb:

I actually know some of the city cops around by sight/name because I work in the ER. Maybe next time they bring a drunk in for us to dry out I'll tell them the situation and see what they say. They're nice guys, but well, VERY small town cops.

It's funny, I'll bellyache about them online, but IRL I'm usually very Zen about salmon - you have to be in this town, since they outnumber the cyclists who go the correct direction. But before this, I've never had an encounter that didn't go like this - either catch salmon's eye/ding bell for attention, I move over a bit, they move the other way a bit (or sometimes they move first, and I then move the other way) we pass with plenty of clearance and a friendly nod and go on our way. Even the tipsy fellows with rusty chains, flat tires, and a case of beer balanced on their handlebars manage this much.

chefisaac 07-23-12 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by -=(8)=- (Post 14514595)
Awesome ! :thumb:

I will. Thank you !

Here is what I am reading, also recommended :beer:

http://jimsbikeblog.files.wordpress....-cyclist-2.jpg

Thanks for the recomendation!

chefisaac 07-23-12 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by Rx Rider (Post 14514926)
I have a grand kid on the way smart guy and believe it or not his family is going to be the people educating him not some do-goody stranger who actually believes it's their job to preach what they think it right. JUST like I taught his mother to be weary of any stranger I will teach the next generation to be weary of common sense. it's not as common as people would like you to believe and it's usually reserved to pull the wool over the eyes of the weak minded. if you believe people that don't agree with you are the reason this country is, what was that word you used? foul mouth little twerp aren't you. no need wasting my time responding to profanity, who taught you that was ok anyway?

I don't think it's the OP role in life to educate either. did you even read the OP!? the guy is big (grown man) the guy is fast, the guy is intent on maintaining his position on the wrong side of the road. when was this education of yours suppose to take place? my advice is only a half lie and how long before fog rider does send someone to the hospital anyway? your advice has a woman attempting to reverse direction, catch up to someone she can't catch up to and somehow relate the wisdom that will make this guy stop doing what he clearly enjoys doing, you know some people really do hate everybody and some of those people ride bikes.
call the police have them do their job and leave the teaching to this idiot, chefisaac who thinks he can tell a grown man how to behave and have him behave.

was she suppose to educate as they crossed paths? wouldn't that sounds a lot like - hey stop riding on the . . .

If that was the case my friend, we would not send kids to school. Just tell them to lie and go one.

Basically, you are saying a female cannot talk with a male. You are saying to call the cops and lie. I see that as foolish. Its like calling the cops on the fmaily next door with a loud grandkid. Would you appreciate that? Let me answer that for you.... NO. You would want them to come over and tlak with you civily. Thats all I am saying. It works like this: Someone bugs you, you tell them. They continue to do so, you take another approach. One of those approaches could be to call the cops.

We both may or may not get the same results. Its a mix bag to be frank.... 50/50 if you will.

As an educator, I find it the need to try to talk with people then to take other approaches first. Just they way I see it.

and p.s. sorry for the low blows. I must have been in a mood. :)

CbadRider 07-23-12 09:34 AM

This thread has run it's course.

Closed.


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