https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...e_trail_x4.htm and this 1 https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...cane/550ht.htm

garbage

Dang are any of the black friday bikes on the front page any good? thats less then 5 hundred

I like that Cafe Sprint, myself.

this 1 ? https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...afe_sprint.htm

what is your budget, we'll shop for you!

the less the better last bike i had some one stole new bike sucks . i do like mountain bikes with road tires

Yea. Sealed BB, rebuildable hubs* and crankset. Reliable shifting. It has everything a guy needs and is a good price at the $449 the site claims on the main page. Only downside is the square taper BB. They work fine, but are slightly more expensive to replace. Still, they can be had for $20 or so and are reliable.

*At least I'm pretty sure the WH-R500s are rebuildable.

cool ill move that 1 to top of my list

I've been commuting the last two year with a 450$ bike (that I bought used at 150$) I have ride it for almost 12000 kms already with no big problems.

My Fantom CX has proven nearly indestructible.

Not sure how I feel about the mechanical discs on the mountain bikes, but I do like that Cafe Sprint.

Not only budget, but what's the terrain like? Road conditions? Weather? Rider weight? Shoe size can even play into it if panniers are used. Is a comfortable, upright position preferred over an aerodynamic riding position? We simply need more details before any recommendations can be made.

Im 5 foot 5 male avg weight i ride on the street but there is imperfections on the street where i ride where they repaved and didnt get it all the way to curb. i like to sit up right i feel i can see beter that way i have a seat bike rack id use.but would love to be able to put basket on the bike for grocerys

$479

https://www.competitivecyclist.com/za...ODUCT.ID=10919

O i forgot id like at least 3 speeds one real low and one high and 1 in middle i am on the botum of a huge hill. right now i have a moongoose deception waiting to get the rear caliper right now.i like it other then it seems and is cheap

These are nice for the money. https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ord_deluxe.htm

The mountain bike route is fine if you stick with a rigid fork. Shock forks not only detract from the ride/efficiency on paved roads, they add cost at the expense of quality compromises elsewhere on the bike in order to meet a price point. For your height, I suggest a 26" mtb, or perhaps a 29er with road tires would be fine.
Frankly, I think going with a hybrid would be a better choice.

Consider buying a used bike - best value for money - but you will need to have a reasonable idea of the desired size and an awareness of good bikes vs. junk. We can help sort that out with links.

I like that last bike i always wondered how them kinda gears work? on the lower gears is it just sliping a bit? or are there gears in the hub?

Maybe look for an older specialized allez or a surly cross check.

It is a 3-speed internally geared hub. Bikesdirect also offers a model of this bike with an 8-speed internally geared hub. https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ensington8.htm
Depending on the hill you are tackling, the 3-speed might offer the best value, but the 8-speed would give you more range in gearing. You can tackle just about any grade on the 3-speed as long as it is not too long and steep.

so far i like this a lot i wonder how strong the rear rack is .I love simple designs less to go wrong https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ord_deluxe.htm

how about this one https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...e_express3.htm

That one is fine, too - the men's frame is not pictured, but it would be a suitable option. It is more of a "hybrid" style, while the Oxford is more of a classic English-style town/country bike.
Either one would offer a good value, IMO.

And you're on the right track - simpler is better and more reliable, especially in this price range, where there is more value for money with a simpler bike.

cool thats what i want is simple i dont even care how it looks but i want it to be dependable and have 3 gears so i can get up hills i had a 1 speed and hills kikced my rear end

I have a Kensington 8 (the eight speed version) and the rear rack so far has held up fine. I've toted panniers full of canned food and it didn't creak one bit.

The 8 speed has suited me fine, the one problem is sometimes when I hit potholes or bumps too hard, it shifts spontaneously, and then I have to shift up and down and move my pedals back and forth to get it to work again. I think it's something in the shifter up at the handlebars, but so far all the videos I've found about nexus 8 shift cables deal with the hub end.

I just replaced the stock kickstand with a double kickstand. One of the best things I ever did, it stays rock steady now no matter how much of a ****er I am while I'm loading it up.

i like that setup .nice bike