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Old 03-21-13 | 01:18 PM
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I would move to DF just for the street tortas.
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Old 03-21-13 | 01:32 PM
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I would move to DF just for the street tortas.
Honestly, after living in Europe for 5 years, I'd like some excitement (or perhaps rather access to something more exciting.)

And, while I love the cuisine in Europe, I do miss the grittiness/griminess of authentic Mexican street food.
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Old 03-21-13 | 03:52 PM
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it's really a global city.

i'd put it in the same realm at NYC, London and São Paulo in the West and Istanbul, Hong Kong, Mumbai, Seoul-or-Tokyo in the East.

i've heard that it feels much larger than a Paris.

pros:
interesting
cheap on a global level (can buy an apartment in cash quite easily)
large
good public transport
cultural access to Central/South America

cons:
cheap on a global level (difficult to travel or invest elsewhere)
quality of family support (compared to UK/Germany/Scandiland)
not as safe as Europe (probably similar to certain cities in the US)
cycling/walking/stroller or pram infrastructure
far from Europe and other urban areas of Central/South America
rail transport between urban areas (Bogotá for exmaple) not possible, which is easier with a family
Mexico City is nowhere near as safe as most U.S. cities, unless your comparison point is Detroit or New Orleans, which have two of the highest murder rates in the country. There's no way I'd make a move there, as they still struggle with a lot of crime and drug-related violence, whereas other parts of Mexico are much safer. People I know who go there on business always travel with bodyguards.

You must not have done much research on Mexico City, other than population.
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Old 03-21-13 | 04:04 PM
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I like Mexico, but the air is just too polluted for me to consider living in D.F. Couldn't deal with that.
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Old 03-21-13 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cafzali
Mexico City is nowhere near as safe as most U.S. cities, unless your comparison point is Detroit or New Orleans, which have two of the highest murder rates in the country. There's no way I'd make a move there, as they still struggle with a lot of crime and drug-related violence, whereas other parts of Mexico are much safer. People I know who go there on business always travel with bodyguards.

You must not have done much research on Mexico City, other than population.
how many time have you been there? just trying to decide if this is the typical US-based Mexico-bashing or actual experience talking???

i've only been there 3 times and usually on transit to Cuernavaca, but a frame of reference would help.
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Old 03-21-13 | 08:45 PM
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If you want a 20m+ city that's one of the safest cities anywhere, excellent public transit, good street food, good cycling infrastructure, and a relatively low cost of living (as long as you're not looking to buy an apartment) Shanghai would be an excellent choice.
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Old 03-22-13 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by The Chemist
If you want a 20m+ city that's one of the safest cities anywhere, excellent public transit, good street food, good cycling infrastructure, and a relatively low cost of living (as long as you're not looking to buy an apartment) Shanghai would be an excellent choice.
I've looked at multiple Chinese cities and have tried to force my way in as a prof, as I haven't had much success, which leaves Mexico City an interesting option.
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Everyone, thanks for your opinions!
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Old 03-22-13 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by caloso
I would move to DF just for the street tortas.
Hahaha just do not to forget the essential vitamin T street Mexican Food.

the vitamin T is for Tortas, Tamales and Tacos

greetings, Erick
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Old 03-22-13 | 12:28 PM
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Everyone, thanks for your opinions!
You welcome mi amigo, If you pick DF, we would be pleased of having you around.
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Yuck. I wouldn't want to be breathing this in every day.
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Originally Posted by spivonious
Yuck. I wouldn't want to be breathing this in every day.
Not to sound too condescending, but that's what happens (pollution) when you don't want to live in the middle of nowhere (less than 2.5M ppl, which I consider the critical mass to effective public transportation by bus and rail).
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
Not to sound too condescending, but that's what happens (pollution) when you don't want to live in the middle of nowhere (less than 2.5M ppl, which I consider the critical mass to effective public transportation by bus and rail).
Mexico City's air is particularly dirty because of high pressure systems that move over the city and trap air in the Valley of Mexico.

Regarding effective public transport, you needn't live in a city of more than 2.5 million people in Mexico to find that. The bus system is excellent in just about any Mexican town because there is a large percentage of the population that can't afford to buy a car.
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I say u forget about Mexico city and start looking in universities here in Holland. We have Great public transport and AMAZING cycling infrastructure.
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Old 03-23-13 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by pepox369
I say u forget about Mexico city and start looking in universities here in Holland. We have Great public transport and AMAZING cycling infrastructure.
yeah, I really like Groningen and Utrecht for universities. let's see how everything plays out.

the comment about public transport was more in response to the guy from Lancaster, PA complaining about pollution ... i understand that horse&buggy doesn't produce a lot of emissions
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I say u forget about Mexico city and start looking in universities here in Holland. We have Great public transport and AMAZING cycling infrastructure.
I am Dutch and lived 1 year in Mexico City, I think I prefer Mexico City above most Dutch towns.
The metro system in DF is much better (and cheaper) than in Holland, the food is better, the people are very friendle and it is much cheaper.
The downsides is the pollution and the criminals.
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Old 03-25-13 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by paulkal
I am Dutch and lived 1 year in Mexico City, I think I prefer Mexico City above most Dutch towns.
The metro system in DF is much better (and cheaper) than in Holland, the food is better, the people are very friendle and it is much cheaper.
The downsides is the pollution and the criminals.
it's an interesting option. i'm flying in near the end of april to spend a few days there and see how i like it.

sadly, i still haven't been to the netherlands even though i know a bunch of people in utrecht, groningen, amsterdam and wageningen.
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