CrossRip, What exactly's wrong?
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I ride in all condition. My Trek 520 with canti's and Koolstop brake pads works just fine. Of course, I don't ride >12mph when conditions aren't ideal.
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That Redline looks like a good choice and a nice bike. 10 speed too - more easily upgraded than a 9 speed - if that matters. But better components to start with in any case.
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So im a rookie, looking at getting my first non Chinese big box store bike. Mainly for commuting but for weekend rail trails. Im looking exclusivly at Trek (cc reasons..) and im pretty much sold on the crossrip elite. Question is the reviews I see peoples main issue is the low level components, deraillers and shifters specifically. My question is, what makes them so bad? For the beginning casual/fitness rider atleast is there really a big difference in components I will notice? I understand the point of if you are going to spend X amount why not spend a bit more and upgrade, but im already upgrading from -$200 bikes and 1200 is a huge amount imo already.
Trek tends to be a bit pricier than others for what you get, at least where I live.
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I think the CrossRip fits a nice niche. There's lots of cyclocross-ish steel bikes with room for tires wider than 32mm + fenders but not many aluminum bikes. This is not meant to start an aluminum vs steel debate, just sayin that it's nice to have a choice.
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Lol yes I did not mean to start a brand war (already fought) or a materials war. Just was unsure about components and how much a novice would notice. Im now looking into the Kona Jake and Trek 1.5 now that I learned of the brake interrupter levers! This site is *amazing* with the knowledge and willingness to help out people new to the game. Many thanks everyone for their opinons and suggestions.
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Lol yes I did not mean to start a brand war (already fought) or a materials war. Just was unsure about components and how much a novice would notice. Im now looking into the Kona Jake and Trek 1.5 now that I learned of the brake interrupter levers! This site is *amazing* with the knowledge and willingness to help out people new to the game. Many thanks everyone for their opinons and suggestions.
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Where I would consider a non-disc system to be inferiour is in a PNW winter with all the grit on the wet roads; I tear through brake pads, and a pair of rims only lasts me about 7000 - 8000 miles before I wear out the brake track... but I stick with it just because I already have the equipment and don't want to spend the money on a disc brake generator hub and a new rear hub.
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Lots of good possibilities mentioned here. Might also check out REI if there is one in your area. Some good bikes, good warranty, currently 20% off for members (would be worth joining for the discount), and free shipping if it is ordered online. I think REI might have some bikes that might interest you. If you select show all bikes, you can then specify things like disc brakes, frame material, etc. on the left of the page to get an idea of what is available that may interest you.
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Hey Nomad, where in Ohio are you? If anywhere in the Northeast check out Eddy's Bike shop's web page. First, the bikes they carry (both Trek and Specialized) are 10% off MSRP all the time. Second, their Stow location has a few of last years Specialized Tricross left for discounted prices. Spin in Lakewood is good for Kona and can get discounts off of last years models from the dealer if they are available (they've been an honest dealer that passes on the discount from my experience, unlike some others).
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Nomad, another thing to think about. You said rail trails on the weekends. If there is a gravel or crushed limestone surface I'd steer clear of a standard road bike that has narrow tires and cannot take a larger tire than a 25mm.
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No more 10spd commuters for me. My 8spd bikes got about a year and a half out of a chain,replacements were $18. My 9spd Safari gets about a year,maybe 13 months,replacements cost $25. My 10spd cross bike(gone now,stolen) got 8 maybe 9 months out of a chain,and replacements were $40.
For bikes,the 20% coupon is only good on house brand Novara,and free shipping only to an REI store location. They have the Zealo,which is a drop bar disc bike. I had its predecessor,the Road Buzz;returned it because it rode so badly,even with wider tires. Looked over the Zealo at the store,has the same style fork as the RB,but much less tire clearance. Wouldn't buy one unless I had a steel or CF fork sitting in the corner to transplant on.
For bikes,the 20% coupon is only good on house brand Novara,and free shipping only to an REI store location. They have the Zealo,which is a drop bar disc bike. I had its predecessor,the Road Buzz;returned it because it rode so badly,even with wider tires. Looked over the Zealo at the store,has the same style fork as the RB,but much less tire clearance. Wouldn't buy one unless I had a steel or CF fork sitting in the corner to transplant on.
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No more 10spd commuters for me. My 8spd bikes got about a year and a half out of a chain,replacements were $18. My 9spd Safari gets about a year,maybe 13 months,replacements cost $25. My 10spd cross bike(gone now,stolen) got 8 maybe 9 months out of a chain,and replacements were $40.
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Hey Nomad, where in Ohio are you? If anywhere in the Northeast check out Eddy's Bike shop's web page. First, the bikes they carry (both Trek and Specialized) are 10% off MSRP all the time. Second, their Stow location has a few of last years Specialized Tricross left for discounted prices. Spin in Lakewood is good for Kona and can get discounts off of last years models from the dealer if they are available (they've been an honest dealer that passes on the discount from my experience, unlike some others).
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Just want to hit a couple points. Low end components have been disparaged a bit in this thread. Just for a counter point, I have a Sora front and rear derailleur on my bike and they have nearly 7000 miles on them with no issue. Some of the low-end Shimano stuff either road or mountain is quite durable in the long run. It's just that it's not the lightest stuff, but then if you're riding a bike with racks, fenders, and panniers, why are you gram counting? The other point I wanted to make was that interrupter levers can indeed be added to any bike that doesn't already come with them. However, you have to realize that there is currently only one brand of levers that will work with V-brakes and mechanical pull disc brakes, and those are the Paul cross levers. Regular cross levers only pull enough cable to work with caliper or cantilever brakes. Be sure which levers you buy if you go this route. Be warned also that the Paul levers cost $100, whereas you can pick up Tektro cross levers for calipers and cantis for as little as $15.
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I'm not disparaging lower level components - I ride a base Sirrus which has Altus and Tourney, and I find it perfectly manageable. But - I paid $450 for the bike. The Crossrip is priced too high, for what it gives - at least, on paper. If the ride works really well for OP, maybe its worth the cost - but I would definitely suggest testing the other bikes suggested.
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you will notice the jump up from your non bike shop bike, will take much more time
to note a difference in components above that.. the chain shoved back and forth a little faster..
the chain and the cogwheels are what moves the bike.. you will like the Disc brakes when the weather is foul.
other brands have their supporters.. people tout what they bought..
and Diss other stuff.. oh well..
to note a difference in components above that.. the chain shoved back and forth a little faster..
the chain and the cogwheels are what moves the bike.. you will like the Disc brakes when the weather is foul.
other brands have their supporters.. people tout what they bought..
and Diss other stuff.. oh well..

At the $1k price point BikesDirect bikes really start to make sense.
I agree that for a commuter disc brakes are awesome. You will probably want to get some touring tires unless your commute is mostly gravel so add an extra $100 to the budget for a pair of tires as the CX tires will probably not be the best for asphalt commute.
I haven't ridden the CrossRip, but it is a fine bike and Trek is a good company. True, you might be able to get some better components for the same price, but if you like the CrossRip, take it for a test ride (go further than just around the block). If you still like it, buy it, and ride it. I doubt a new rider would be able to tell the difference in the components.
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I used to love my interrupters, but I eventually stopped using them and now have a couple of pairs sitting unused on my shelf. One downside is that if they aren't installed just right they can add friction to your system and reduce braking power. This effect is minimal if they are installed correctly, so it's more of a convenience issue than one of functionality, but it was enough for me to stop using them once I was on the fence.
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I used to love my interrupters, but I eventually stopped using them and now have a couple of pairs sitting unused on my shelf. One downside is that if they aren't installed just right they can add friction to your system and reduce braking power. This effect is minimal if they are installed correctly, so it's more of a convenience issue than one of functionality, but it was enough for me to stop using them once I was on the fence.
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