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Old 06-13-13 | 08:48 PM
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We should just talk about helmets and chain lube. Then maybe Religion and Politics...lol

I'ts pretty simple to me, I would have shot the dogs a long time ago, all of them.
Super silver dry lube lol
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Old 06-13-13 | 08:51 PM
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And all the rest of us, who actually DID read the OP's posts from the start, are shaking OUR heads at YOU and your insistence on being obtuse.

Seriously.

OP was asked about a different route early on, and answered that -- there IS none. And it WASN'T "some friend in the sheriff's office", it was the POLICE CHIEF. The first option taken WAS THE POLICE SPEAKING TO THE APPROPRIATE HOMEOWNER.
The "police chief" had no jurisdiction there. It's like having the mayor of Anchorage come and have a chat with me. I'd tell the Mayor of Anchorage to gtfo. Or, a state police officer of Oklahoma. Again, I'd tell him/her to piss up a rope.

Distilled water couldn't be clearer than the OP's posts. So, it IS your fault. You're dangling dangerously close to the cliff's edge of trolling.....
Obviously, you don't understand how the law works, especially when it comes to things like jurisdiction.
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So, a police chief has to have jurisdiction to tell a citizen what the applicable laws are? REALLY?!? Does it work that way with lawyers, too? He wasn't asking PERMISSION, FFS, he was finding out his legal STANDING.

As much as I've studied the law, I think I know a thing or two. ENFORCING it requires jurisdiction; KNOWLEDGE of it does not. The fact that I'm not a cop doesn't stop me from a.)letting others know what the law says, or b.)following up on it with someone who DOES have jurisdiction. When the neighbor across the street adjusts landscape lights to shine in my windows (against the law here), I can PRINT A COPY of the applicable law and drop it on the doorstep -- OR, I can call a cop/prosecutor's office.

I.A.N.A.L., but I do not need to be to read and logically deduce. When language in law is obscure, you need lawyers to sort it out. Otherwise, no. Do you need a lawyer to disassemble the law about speed limits for you? "SPEED LIMIT 40" means you are breaking the law when you go 41. Don't agree? Sue me for lying to you, see how far you get.

Gawd, why do I even BOTHER sometimes.......
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Old 06-14-13 | 03:07 AM
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I didn't read all 9 pages but I'm a bit familiar with Louisiana laws. Poisoning a dog is illegal, even if a nuisance dog comes on your own property. Shooting or firing at a dog or group of dogs while they are chasing you (threat of serious bodily harm or death) on a public road is legal. I would do what the OP did, and maybe send a letter to the address where the dogs are coming from and inform the resident of the problem and your intended solution. I would not sign my name and I would not mention that I'm on a bicycle, only that the dogs come after me when I pass the address and I intend to protect myself.
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Old 06-14-13 | 06:03 AM
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So, a police chief has to have jurisdiction to tell a citizen what the applicable laws are? REALLY?!? Does it work that way with lawyers, too? He wasn't asking PERMISSION, FFS, he was finding out his legal STANDING.
No, a law enforcement officer needs to have jurisdiction to ENFORCE the law. Find out his legal standing all he wants, but why not just file a report with the sheriff's office? Nah, gotta grab mah gun and solve it!
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I sure hope the OP sticks around long enough to let us know how this ends.
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No, a law enforcement officer needs to have jurisdiction to ENFORCE the law. Find out his legal standing all he wants, but why not just file a report with the sheriff's office? Nah, gotta grab mah gun and solve it!
Good thing you chopped out the rest of DX-MAN's post before posting your "rebuttal" or else it would look like you were saying the same thing.

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Old 06-14-13 | 10:42 AM
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Good thing you chopped out the rest of DX-MAN's post before posting your "rebuttal" or else it would look like you were saying the same thing.
I tell ya, sometimes....... I guess when some folks get their knowledge of law from watching Perry Mason reruns...........
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Old 06-14-13 | 11:27 AM
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Maybe Ubergeek can run interference for him, ride in front of him and then lay down and play with the doggies?

Oh, by the by, dogs don't give a **** how much paperwork you file on them, true story.
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Old 06-14-13 | 06:49 PM
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Good luck with this, OP. Please keep us in the loop.

We just had a jogger killed by a pack of dogs last month.

[h=1]Dog owner arrested in pit-bull attack that killed jogger near Palmdale, 8 dogs confiscated[/h]LITTLEROCK -- A woman was fatally mauled by pit bulls today while she was jogging in the Littlerock area near Palmdale, and sheriff's deputies arrested a man and confiscated his six pit bulls and two mixed breeds hours later.
The woman was attacked about 9:30 a.m. near 110th Street East and Avenue S, Los Angeles County Fire Department Inspector Scott Miller said.
Sheriff's deputies were searching for as many as four pit bulls that may have been involved in the attack. Officials warned residents to call 911 if they spotted the dogs.




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Old 06-14-13 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Santaria
Maybe Ubergeek can run interference for him, ride in front of him and then lay down and play with the doggies?

Oh, by the by, dogs don't give a **** how much paperwork you file on them, true story.
Nah, I'd rather just call the sheriffs and let them deal with it, instead of trying to aim, and shoot a pack of dogs while on a bicycle...

But, to each their own. Rambos will be Rambos, I suppose. I'll take the path of least resistance, and let LEO's do the job they're paid to do.
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Old 06-14-13 | 08:51 PM
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Nah, I'd rather just call the sheriffs and let them deal with it, instead of trying to aim, and shoot a pack of dogs while on a bicycle...

But, to each their own. Rambos will be Rambos, I suppose. I'll take the path of least resistance, and let LEO's do the job they're paid to do.
Just remember, when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away...

Even if he did have the sheriff visit the homeowner, the guy denies owning the dogs. And I'm sure the sheriff isn't going to wait there for something to happen and then jump in to save the day.

Each individual is responsible for his/her own safety. The OP has every right to protect himself by whatever means is legal and readily available to him.
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Old 06-15-13 | 12:49 PM
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I'll just add that I'm against poisoning the dogs. That's got to be a horrible way to die, all kinds of pain for what could be hours before the animal finally dies. That's a cowards way out. Don't be a coward.
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Old 06-15-13 | 01:45 PM
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Hey guys, sorry I haven't had a chance to post. Been really busy, it's our annual festival in town and our Fire Dept is really involved with the festival. Anyway, I've rode in to work the last two shifts without incident. Thank God. I drove my truck into town so I could pick up some things at the lumber store and noticed them laying out in the yard. So there still there.


To clear one thing up, my buddy at the Sheriffs office isn't a janitor are anything, he's the road captain. He's over the Lieutenants, Sergeants and deputies. So I'm pretty sure what he told me was accurate. He already gave me the run down on what needs to happen if I decide to take lethal action. Again, as I have already mentioned, I'm still looking for other ways to solve the issue. I've had plenty of times where I could have safely taken the dogs out but I haven't.


My brother in-law has a smaller .22 caliber pistol, I think I'm gonna borrow that and buy some rat shot for it. That won't kill them but it will seriously sting the crap out of them. I think over time they will get tired of that and quit. Hopefully.
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Old 06-15-13 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cobrabyte
I'll just add that I'm against poisoning the dogs. That's got to be a horrible way to die, all kinds of pain for what could be hours before the animal finally dies. That's a cowards way out. Don't be a coward.
I couldn't agree more. One of my dogs was poisoned a couple years ago, in my own fenced-in backyard. Someone must have tossed some rat poison over the fence for no good reason. Nearly killed my gentle, loving, diabetic pit bull mix, and cost me several hundred dollars in meds and vet bills.

I would never put another dog through what Bruno had gone through.



Who could hurt something with a face like that?

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Old 06-15-13 | 01:56 PM
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it you are going to shoot something, kill it.....
i really req. something bigger than a 22. Having lived in Doggie drop off land for years, shooting a dog with a 22 prolongs the death. And the longer you see it jerking around the more it's going to bug you. Trust me on that....
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Old 06-15-13 | 05:47 PM
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it you are going to shoot something, kill it.....
i really req. something bigger than a 22. Having lived in Doggie drop off land for years, shooting a dog with a 22 prolongs the death. And the longer you see it jerking around the more it's going to bug you. Trust me on that....
I agree if you are going to use a gun shoot to kill or don't bother.
A .22lr may just piss them off or give them a slow death, just as inhumane as poison.
I wouldn't use anything smaller than a .45acp or a short barrel shotgun perhaps with slugs.
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The more I've thought about this, the more I've been wondering if the solution isn't dealing with the dogs at all. You and the owner have had lots of intermediaries filter the message for you, and him, in this situation. Perhaps you should sit down at a cafe over a cup of coffee and explain, in unquestionable words, what this dog situation is doing to your health and well-being. I know it's a long shot, but maybe, just maybe, the solution is direct communication between you two adults.

I figure this may be the answer since, while you've admitted to being armed, a good shot and, at least on the Internet, upset enough to warrant lethal force, you've waxed and waned on actually pulling the trigger. While I'm not against protecting yourself, I get the impression you don't want the drama, baggage and mental anguish involved with killing something without every option being exhausted.
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Old 06-15-13 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisM2097
Just remember, when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away...

Even if he did have the sheriff visit the homeowner, the guy denies owning the dogs. And I'm sure the sheriff isn't going to wait there for something to happen and then jump in to save the day.

Each individual is responsible for his/her own safety. The OP has every right to protect himself by whatever means is legal and readily available to him.
And, remember: If the owner denies owning the dogs, then they will be declared vicious strays, and immediately put down. Problem solved, without going Rambo on a bicycle.

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The more I've thought about this, the more I've been wondering if the solution isn't dealing with the dogs at all. You and the owner have had lots of intermediaries filter the message for you, and him, in this situation. Perhaps you should sit down at a cafe over a cup of coffee and explain, in unquestionable words, what this dog situation is doing to your health and well-being. I know it's a long shot, but maybe, just maybe, the solution is direct communication between you two adults.

I figure this may be the answer since, while you've admitted to being armed, a good shot and, at least on the Internet, upset enough to warrant lethal force, you've waxed and waned on actually pulling the trigger. While I'm not against protecting yourself, I get the impression you don't want the drama, baggage and mental anguish involved with killing something without every option being exhausted.
This is probably the best advice in the thread.
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Old 06-17-13 | 06:28 AM
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Too bad it's not a pack of wild pigs chasing you. Nobody seems to care about how badly pigs are treated. Also bacon.
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I don't remember noise being mentioned here, but if it hasn't have you tried something like an airzounds or a boat horn? I've never needed to try them, but hear they work good. The extra attention you would attract from other neighbors in trying to solve the problem in a nonlethal would work to your advantage if you did need to take more drastic action.
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