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Old 05-09-13 | 07:31 PM
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Please advise inexpensive 700c tire

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Please advise me an inexpensive (about 35$) 700c tire with low rolling resistance. I usually ride only on roads, sometimes in rain. But never in snow, ice or maraphon. Most likely I wan't use it for more then 10 miles per ride.

My rims have sticker "cypress 622x19". Currently I have Kenda 700x38c
In the shop I was told that I can install tires 32-40с and they offered me tires continental ecocontact plus (for 35$):
https://www.conti-online.com/www/bicy...ctplus_en.html
But I could find one 1 review for it. Does anybody can advise if its a good choice for this money or I should look for smth better?
Which tire width should I look for?
I don't need extremely high durability as I don't go for long distances, rolling resistance is more important.
I am located in US.
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Old 05-09-13 | 07:38 PM
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Please advise 700c tire

Continental Gatorskin. Hard and fast, good puncture protection

https://www.conti-online.com/www/bicycle_de_en/themes/race/racetyres/gatorskin_en.html
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Old 05-09-13 | 07:42 PM
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I dunno about low rolling resistance. I ride a Schwalbe Marathon 28c on my commute and it's somewhat beefy, very flat proof, lasts about 6-8K miles and very little worry about the sidewalls giving out the next stick I encounter.

I used to ride wide Kendas a while back, but they didn't last...

In my experience, Contis aren't all that durable either.
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Old 05-09-13 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gerv
I dunno about low rolling resistance.
Are you talking about continental ecocontact plus or all Continental's tires?

Which smallest tire width can I install?

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Old 05-09-13 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by stridder
Are you talking about continental ecocontact plus or all Continental's tires?
Gatorskins are all I have used.
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You should be able to safely go as low as 26mm.
Speaking of 26mm? I have had excellent results with these-
https://www.biketiresdirect.com/produ...t-tire-folding
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Old 05-09-13 | 08:09 PM
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You should be able to safely go as low as 26mm.
Speaking of 26mm? I have had excellent results with these-
https://www.biketiresdirect.com/produ...t-tire-folding
Nice price! How is Biketiresdirect about returns? Never bought anything there
I would try them, but not sure about 26mm.
Do I also need to order new tubes for it? I think my current are sized for 35-43c tires.

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Continental Gatorskin. Hard and fast, good puncture protection

https://www.conti-online.com/www/bicy...orskin_en.html
I don't want to start a fight but I disagree with this statement, I have a gatorskin 700x25 and it's now on my spare wheel, I lost confidence in the thing because of the many flats I had with it. Its hard and fast and durable but for the puncture protection it's the worst I ever got.

I may have been unlucky with it but I hate to rely on luck.

I now ride on Vittoria rubino and they're great so far.
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I still like the Panaracer Pasela TG or not, TServ, UrbanMax, or RibMO.
Great all around 700c tires......
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Panaracer Pasela or Panaracer Pasela Tourguard. Great riding tire.
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https://www.ebikestop.com/panaracer_p...PARTNER=GOOGPS

or if you have trouble with flats

https://www.ebikestop.com/panaracer_p...eel-TR2248.php
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Originally Posted by AusTexMurf
I still like the Panaracer Pasela TG or not, TServ, UrbanMax, or RibMO.
Great all around 700c tires......
Could you order these tires for rolling resistance?

Guys, I am getting lost with choices. Can somebody compare Vittoria rubino, Schwalbe Marathon 28c and these 5 mentioned here? (or any 2 of them).

The table below says I need at least 28c and for Panaracer Pasela even 32c, cause reviews say they measure it wrong.
https://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html

I think currently have
https://www.sportsprofi.com/product_i...97-269013.html
Will I see the performance difference with mentioned tires?

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In my experience, the lowest cost per mile is the Schwalbe Marathon Plus. $60 divided by 10K miles per tire means less than a penny a mile. Flat free at no extra charge.
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I have the Panaracer Pasela TG in 32 on my commuter and they are great tires. I'm not sure how to comment on the "rolling resistance" thing as people seem to have differing opinions on that.
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I think Jan hein did a study in bicycle quarterly re rolling resistence. not sure if the info is online but the pasela did well esp when you take into consideration its price.

i've been happy with most tires i've owned. only one i didnt like much was kenda kwest but some seem to like them.
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I like the regular Panaracer Paselas and they run pretty close to the advertized size these days. They are comfortable and roll fast enough for me.

As far as "performance" goes, wind resistance makes far more of an impact than rolling resistance over 15-20 MPH. So forget trying to beat roadies on your hybrid by switching to skinny tires.
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Originally Posted by stridder
Nice price! How is Biketiresdirect about returns? Never bought anything there
I would try them, but not sure about 26mm.
Do I also need to order new tubes for it? I think my current are sized for 35-43c tires.
I've never had to return anything.
They DO ship promptly. I only live about 80 miles from them, but have received an order 23 hours later.

You would want new, appropriate sized tubes. The old tubes would tend to fold over internally, causing weak spots. Plus, why pack the extra weight?
Mine were initially on 23MM rims. I've since built a "skinnier" wheelset. Tried some smaller tires for a couple weeks and went back to these because of flats.
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Stop worrying about "rolling resistance," it's difficult to measure and everyone has their own opinions on it.

For the riding you are doing I would recommend Panaracer Pasela Tourguards in 32 or 35mm size.
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Old 05-10-13 | 04:05 PM
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Stop worrying about "rolling resistance," it's difficult to measure and everyone has their own opinions on it.
In this case I should stay with my Kenda, they are fine. But I get tired with them quite fast, so I believe its not so difficult to measure This is the only reason I want to upgrade.

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For the riding you are doing I would recommend Panaracer Pasela Tourguards in 32 or 35mm size.
Why do you recommend this particular size and not say 28mm? It should be lighter

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If you're looking for wide-ish tires,I'd go with Vittoria Randonneurs. Get the folding bead Pro's if you want to shave weight.
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I really can't give you any advice on rolling resistance. However, I recently replaced my Kenda Kourrier 700 x 40 with a set of Michelin City 700 x 35.
So far, I'm really happy with the change.
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You're actually pondering the difference in weight between 28 & 32? You want the weight weenies forum right around the corner.

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Originally Posted by Chris Chicago
I think Jan hein did a study in bicycle quarterly re rolling resistence. not sure if the info is online but the pasela did well esp when you take into consideration its price.
I found his comment. They tested
without Tourguard version.
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/0...ance-of-tires/
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Originally Posted by megalowmatt
You're actually pondering the difference in weight between 28 & 32? You want the weight weenies forum right around the corner.

I am just trying to understand how to choose the width. What are advanteges and disadvanteges? May be I should buy 26mm Panaracer Stradius Sport Tire (Folding) as Bill Kapaun suggests. Nobody gave an argument against them.
BTW, I believe that even a small weight difference for tires does matter due to moment of inertion.
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