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#376
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So you are going to open it up, then I'll say food here is better. No I cannot get as good Mexican food here that would be the end. Asian food here is better not by a little bit, the African foods here are better not by just a little bit, and that doesn't eve speak of central Asia and the former Soviet satellites.
Beers in the states are variations on beers here on the continent. If there is a beer style your feel your missing when you come here then you're not looking hard enough. In one respect you are correct Germans tend to drink local, very local and it seems to span the generations. If I bring a Winkler Bräu home to Frankonia I'll be the only one who drinks it.
Beers in the states are variations on beers here on the continent. If there is a beer style your feel your missing when you come here then you're not looking hard enough. In one respect you are correct Germans tend to drink local, very local and it seems to span the generations. If I bring a Winkler Bräu home to Frankonia I'll be the only one who drinks it.
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You do realize there are about as many asians in the greater LA as in all of Germany.
Styles of beer that are pretty much unique to the states: Cascadian dark ale (CDA), India red ale (IRA, a new style!), and rye pale ales (RPAs). Its now possible to find a few APAs and ASAs (the USA's most well known styles) in europe but every one I've tasted has been mediocre, at best.
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You do realize there are about as many asians in the greater LA as in all of Germany.
Styles of beer that are pretty much unique to the states: Cascadian dark ale (CDA), India red ale (IRA, a new style!), and rye pale ales (RPAs). Its now possible to find a few APAs and ASAs (the USA's most well known styles) in europe but every one I've tasted has been mediocre, at best.
You do realize there are about as many asians in the greater LA as in all of Germany.
Styles of beer that are pretty much unique to the states: Cascadian dark ale (CDA), India red ale (IRA, a new style!), and rye pale ales (RPAs). Its now possible to find a few APAs and ASAs (the USA's most well known styles) in europe but every one I've tasted has been mediocre, at best.
trying too hard to be trendy.
as far as asians go, one of the largest populations of Japanese outside of Japan is in Düsseldorf, Germany. They have the best Okinomiyaki places outside of Japan. Cali is way overhyped. Should have sunk into the ocean by now.
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#378
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You do realize there are about as many asians in the greater LA as in all of Germany.
Styles of beer that are pretty much unique to the states: Cascadian dark ale (CDA), India red ale (IRA, a new style!), and rye pale ales (RPAs). Its now possible to find a few APAs and ASAs (the USA's most well known styles) in europe but every one I've tasted has been mediocre, at best.
You do realize there are about as many asians in the greater LA as in all of Germany.
Styles of beer that are pretty much unique to the states: Cascadian dark ale (CDA), India red ale (IRA, a new style!), and rye pale ales (RPAs). Its now possible to find a few APAs and ASAs (the USA's most well known styles) in europe but every one I've tasted has been mediocre, at best.
A CDA is a Dark IPA a derivative of an English beer
IRA another derivative of an IPA
Rye's of all sorts are bit hard to get ahold of in the north of Europe but not in Spain Greece and Turkey..
Like I said many posts ago US micro brews are great, I don't think they're "better" than here. I love Bell's and Founders in all they're varied seasonal varieties but I like them because they in many way symbolize my past.
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You understand that more does not equal better and that's only Asians were talking about and of those Asians whats there ethnic breakout and how many per relation to non asians...there more to this then we got lots of um and they make good food. I like American pizza better than Italian pizza that doesn't make Italian pizza bad. I like pizza from Chicago better than NYC neither is bad because I like prefer the dough from Chicago
A CDA is a Dark IPA a derivative of an English beer
IRA another derivative of an IPA
Rye's of all sorts are bit hard to get ahold of in the north of Europe but not in Spain Greece and Turkey..
Like I said many posts ago US micro brews are great, I don't think they're "better" than here. I love Bell's and Founders in all they're varied seasonal varieties but I like them because they in many way symbolize my past.
A CDA is a Dark IPA a derivative of an English beer
IRA another derivative of an IPA
Rye's of all sorts are bit hard to get ahold of in the north of Europe but not in Spain Greece and Turkey..
Like I said many posts ago US micro brews are great, I don't think they're "better" than here. I love Bell's and Founders in all they're varied seasonal varieties but I like them because they in many way symbolize my past.
#380
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here are a few of the best:
https://www.pokpokpdx.com/
2 restaurants (pok, pok and sen yai)
NYT review of the NYC outpost:
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/27/di...nt-review.html
https://www.chiangmaipdx.com/
(Like eating at a very good restaurant in Chiang Mai, Thailand.)
i am not interested in different beer. i don't want diversity, i want high quality.
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no one goes to Chiang Mai, or Thailand for the matter anymore unless they're on a super budget trip or on their way to Burma.
it's great that you have a few restaurants, but they're all imported, which is what you're missing. bringing good food is OK, not having the culture that developed it is kinda sad.
mediocre variety is the not the spice of any sensible person's life.
edit: i don't hate PDX or the pacific northwest at all. by US standards it's quite interesting. however comparing it to a Munich (with it's beer history) or Stuttgart (with it's automotive prowess and current political strife) is kind of naïve, at best. those are two southern German examples similar in size to PDX.
it's great that you have a few restaurants, but they're all imported, which is what you're missing. bringing good food is OK, not having the culture that developed it is kinda sad.
mediocre variety is the not the spice of any sensible person's life.
edit: i don't hate PDX or the pacific northwest at all. by US standards it's quite interesting. however comparing it to a Munich (with it's beer history) or Stuttgart (with it's automotive prowess and current political strife) is kind of naïve, at best. those are two southern German examples similar in size to PDX.
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#382
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This applies until you find what you like, try lots of crap when you've picked you poisons seek quality.
I like Ti bikes I've ridden many of them from different manufacturers my next one will be bespoke.
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a derivative of an English beer
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With a 40% non German population in Stuttgart it's far more diverse than you give it credit for and I've yet to meet a Londoner or Brit in general that doesn't like German sweets.
All derivitives use a bit different stuff than the original hence the derivative, you won't find two weizen's, keller biers, or pils that use the same hops malts and yeasts. Beer here varies town to town let alone region to region. What you will find is though is standards ~2000 years of brewing beer will give you that.
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which is hilarious and exactly my point.
London, and the UK, has almost no native cuisine, even less than Germany, and yet, you select London, it's all imported again like PDX.
why the hell would I go to a Tapas place in London when I go to southern Spain? Why would I eat Indian/Pakistani in London, when a Frankfurt to London flight costs as much as a Frankfurt to Mumbai flight?
seriously? bringing up London is one of the worst choices for authentic food. might as well fly to Munich/Stuttgart rent a BMW/Audi (or take a 200mph train, if that's your thing) over the Alps and eat your way through the Dolomites and into Toscana.
London ...
London, and the UK, has almost no native cuisine, even less than Germany, and yet, you select London, it's all imported again like PDX.
why the hell would I go to a Tapas place in London when I go to southern Spain? Why would I eat Indian/Pakistani in London, when a Frankfurt to London flight costs as much as a Frankfurt to Mumbai flight?
seriously? bringing up London is one of the worst choices for authentic food. might as well fly to Munich/Stuttgart rent a BMW/Audi (or take a 200mph train, if that's your thing) over the Alps and eat your way through the Dolomites and into Toscana.
London ...
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Every sub-street had authentic food. If you hang in tourist areas, sure, you have all kinds of crap.
Hang out in the small streets where you get local food. Even better, do a "home stay" which is what we always do while traveling.
Singapore is very synthetic and not so impressive in my opinion ... honestly, what cuisine is Singapore known for? And, is it different than what you'd get in KL?
Sorry man, but you need to travel (correctly) more often.
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But you are so hide-bound and so very enamored with Germany, I'm not surprised at your view. You're wrong though. If it were a spare, unadorned fixie, then you'd be right, that's someone trying to be cool.
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Enough with the "my beer is better than yours" "my city/country is better than yours crap"!

This is the hot or not BICYCLE thread in the COMMUTING sub-forum.
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This bike is wonderfully ugly. The fork doesn't match the frame, the water bottle is the most hi-viz part of the bike, it doesn't have a rack but a seat post trunk bag that I kind of take as a big "f-you" to the people who hated the first bike posted in this thread with the "penis" hanging off it's seat post.
The bike is used well, and everything about it is functional.
The bike is hot.
The bike is used well, and everything about it is functional.
The bike is hot.
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I like the contrast between the classic Brooks and the disc brakes.
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#398
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i dislike the compact frame / sloping top tube on bikes (any bike). and I highly dislike seatpost racks. Not loving the brown, but the rest of the color scheme is nice. i don't like fenders, but yours look less overbearing so i don't mind here.
overall - i'd say midway between hot and not. so...lukewarm?
thanks for contributing!
overall - i'd say midway between hot and not. so...lukewarm?
thanks for contributing!
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