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#777
#779
I would love the Vaya so much more if it had a straight top tube. it would be such a sharp bike, but the sloping tube kills me.
other than that, the way yours is set up is definitely a hot.
other than that, the way yours is set up is definitely a hot.
#783
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Joined: Aug 2012
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From: West Georgia
Bikes: K2 Mod 5.0 Roadie, Fuji Commuter
#785
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Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 336
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3-10 times my normal pedaling power? Can I put one of those on my cross bike?
#786
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Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 516
Likes: 0
From: Dayton, Oh
Bikes: Salsa Vaya, Specialized Roubaix Team Saxo, Fisher HiFi29er
Thanks for all the comments on my Salsa. It is by far, my favorite bike. I wasn't sure about the top tube when I got it. I had a CrossCheck before. Not sure why, but the Surly never felt quite right, but the Salsa feels like it was made for me. I know...everyone has an opinion.
I think the hotness of the Vaya is how it can be pretty much anything you want it to be. In the summer, I'll strip it down and run WTB Slicks, I'll add the fenders and commuter tires in the spring/fall and I even take it on weekend tours/bike packing. Here is it last year, fully loaded with 70X37 All Terrain tires. Even at 70+ pounds fully loaded, it is still an awesome and stable ride.
I think the hotness of the Vaya is how it can be pretty much anything you want it to be. In the summer, I'll strip it down and run WTB Slicks, I'll add the fenders and commuter tires in the spring/fall and I even take it on weekend tours/bike packing. Here is it last year, fully loaded with 70X37 All Terrain tires. Even at 70+ pounds fully loaded, it is still an awesome and stable ride.
#791
aka Tom Reingold




Joined: Jan 2009
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From: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem
Simpleton, I'm envious of your puffy cloud tires.
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Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
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#792
Tough to judge from these pictures.
I think I see:
-Old GT MTB frame
-Brooks B15
-XT shadow rear derailleur
-bar end shifters with Paul Thumbies
-Schwalbe Fat Franks
-Sugino crankset
-Planet Bike hardcore fenders
The frame is definitely hot, and the lighting in the top picture suits it. I don't like the look of the saddle. The Fat Franks are hot, but the fenders seem too small and are definitely too close to the tire. I like the crank. The rear derailleur is clearly overkill, but a little bling is nice sometimes. The shifters are nicely functional, but I prefer trigger shifters. I also prefer V-brakes whenever they are a possibility.
Overall...hot.
Again, points deducted for the picture. Foliage is nice, but the lighting makes the bike fade into the trees.
Nice frame. I don't like the bars. The crank arms are too fat. (I can say that about crank arms, right?) I can't make out much of anything else.
Overall...meh.
And again, the picture hides the bike. Congrats on the hat trick.
Black bar tape with a honey saddle = missed opportunity. Maybe try the Salsa tan cork tape.
The fenders here are better (Cascadias?). I don't like the white tail lights. The frame bag is hideous. I'm undecided on the bars. At the very least, I don't think they look good with that stem.
Overall...very warm with the potential to be hot just by removing things and taking a better picture.
I think I see:
-Old GT MTB frame
-Brooks B15
-XT shadow rear derailleur
-bar end shifters with Paul Thumbies
-Schwalbe Fat Franks
-Sugino crankset
-Planet Bike hardcore fenders
The frame is definitely hot, and the lighting in the top picture suits it. I don't like the look of the saddle. The Fat Franks are hot, but the fenders seem too small and are definitely too close to the tire. I like the crank. The rear derailleur is clearly overkill, but a little bling is nice sometimes. The shifters are nicely functional, but I prefer trigger shifters. I also prefer V-brakes whenever they are a possibility.
Overall...hot.
Again, points deducted for the picture. Foliage is nice, but the lighting makes the bike fade into the trees.
Nice frame. I don't like the bars. The crank arms are too fat. (I can say that about crank arms, right?) I can't make out much of anything else.
Overall...meh.
And again, the picture hides the bike. Congrats on the hat trick.
Black bar tape with a honey saddle = missed opportunity. Maybe try the Salsa tan cork tape.
The fenders here are better (Cascadias?). I don't like the white tail lights. The frame bag is hideous. I'm undecided on the bars. At the very least, I don't think they look good with that stem.
Overall...very warm with the potential to be hot just by removing things and taking a better picture.
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#793
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,261
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From: SF Bay Area
Bikes: 2012 Specialized Sirrus
#796
I’m a little Surly
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,436
Likes: 1,321
From: Near the district
Bikes: Two Cross Checks, Karate Monkey, Disc Trucker, and a VO Randonneur
#797
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Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 90
Likes: 1
From: Michigan
Bikes: 2012 Rivendell Atlantis, 2012 Soma Double Cross DC,1984 Fisher Mt. Tam, 1992 Trek 970, 1993 Bridgestone MB-2, 1985 Trek 870
No love for the Trek Eh? That bike is such a blast to ride and it's a beast! I plan on repainting it at some point so I'll have to repost and see what happens.
#798
David H.
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
From: Angelino now in Oak Park, Michigan
Bikes: 92 Koga-Myata road bike, 07' Gunnar Rockhound 29'er mtb, 06' Kona Cinder Cone 69'er Gravel Bike, Windsor 8 spd IGH steel commuter, 99' Trek 520 tourer, Minnesota 1.0 Fatbike
Mine:
#799
I’m a little Surly
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,436
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From: Near the district
Bikes: Two Cross Checks, Karate Monkey, Disc Trucker, and a VO Randonneur
I really think you have a better place for that SRAM driveline.
#800
It's a Kona, so that's a plus. 
Maybe it's the camera angle but your fork looks very vertical. The stem angle doesn't help with that appearance. It looks like you've got a light on the seatpost that's entirely blocked by the trunk bag. The saddle is really far back.
I can't quite make out what's going on with the bag in the front. Looks like a small front rack? In any event, it also looks like that huge bag is right on the tire. I don't like it.
Knobby tires are usually a deduction, but it looks like they've got some dirt on them so that could be a plus in this case.
I'm not a fan of the bars, but they kind of work with this setup.
Overall, warm.

Maybe it's the camera angle but your fork looks very vertical. The stem angle doesn't help with that appearance. It looks like you've got a light on the seatpost that's entirely blocked by the trunk bag. The saddle is really far back.
I can't quite make out what's going on with the bag in the front. Looks like a small front rack? In any event, it also looks like that huge bag is right on the tire. I don't like it.
Knobby tires are usually a deduction, but it looks like they've got some dirt on them so that could be a plus in this case.
I'm not a fan of the bars, but they kind of work with this setup.
Overall, warm.
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