Why riding during winter is hard
#26
Higher accumulations of lighter snow are not as hard to ride through as wetter and more compact snow...
#27
If Hakkapeliitta bike tires are half as good as their auto counterparts, I'll run out and get a pair. I used these on all 4 wheels of my Miata and not once, even in the worst of our winter storms did I not have rock solid positive traction and control, which is pretty good with a 2,100 pound sports car. I always enjoyed maneuvering around stranded 4wd SUVs as their drivers stood by scratching their heads.
The only limitation was fresh snow more than 6" deep, on which the car would ski up and get stranded with wheels of the ground. This happened only once, after which I used some self imposed common sense restrictions.
The only limitation was fresh snow more than 6" deep, on which the car would ski up and get stranded with wheels of the ground. This happened only once, after which I used some self imposed common sense restrictions.
Nokian winter bicycle tyres are better than their car tyres when it comes to travelling on ice.
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If Hakkapeliitta bike tires are half as good as their auto counterparts, I'll run out and get a pair. I used these on all 4 wheels of my Miata and not once, even in the worst of our winter storms did I not have rock solid positive traction and control, which is pretty good with a 2,100 pound sports car. I always enjoyed maneuvering around stranded 4wd SUVs as their drivers stood by scratching their heads.
The only limitation was fresh snow more than 6" deep, on which the car would ski up and get stranded with wheels of the ground. This happened only once, after which I used some self imposed common sense restrictions.
The only limitation was fresh snow more than 6" deep, on which the car would ski up and get stranded with wheels of the ground. This happened only once, after which I used some self imposed common sense restrictions.
I bought a pair after looking at Peter White's website - he recommends these for paved roads with periodic ice. Winter falls on ice or turns ended; I also had good traction climbing hills and could steer and brake much better.
To the OP - you also get interesting reactions from people shoveling out their cars. I'd usually tell that the bicycle is much easier to dig out than a car. Most would laugh but some seemed serious and very annoyed.
#29
I've seen it happen many times to new drivers of 4WD's who blindly believe they are invincible, instead of using some basic common sense. On one occasion I was in the passengers seat while the idiot driving tried to climb it over the 3' bank of snow along the side of the road left by the snowplows clearing a blizzard.
And here is the punchline: We were driving a dealer's demo!
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Many years ago driving with a friend in his 4WD jeep on a "black ice" day, I commented that he should slow down and keep his eyes open because there was a decent amount of ice forming. His "don't worry, I have 4 studded tires on this" said just about 2 minute before the road curved and we didn't, ending up tilted about 45° in a ditch. It was a cold walk in the rain.
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Many years ago driving with a friend in his 4WD jeep on a "black ice" day, I commented that he should slow down and keep his eyes open because there was a decent amount of ice forming. His "don't worry, I have 4 studded tires on this" said just about 2 minute before the road curved and we didn't, ending up tilted about 45° in a ditch. It was a cold walk in the rain.
We were cruising along I-70 @ 10,000' doing 45mph on wet road (I thought) when I noticed up ahead a car pulled onto the road from the right. Odd, I thought; I don't recall an entrance ramp there. As I slowed to allow the car to merge, I suddenly realized we were on black ice!
I managed to stay in my lane and keep the headlights pointed in the general direction of travel as we slid around trying not to rear-end the car merging. I also realized (from the tracks) there was no intersection; That car had run off the road and slid back on! At this same time I saw that the sleeping idiot (ex-GF) in my passenger seat had removed her seatbelt.
So there was absolutely nothing that would have stopped her from going into the windshield if we had hit the car ahead.
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metrowest Boston gets a lot of road salt and plowing so I guess we have it easy. just have to watch out for the slush at the shoulders
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Yes. And Yes. The ones in the pic 65er posted are home made. Last I knew, there were instructions down in the Winter Cycling forum.
One caveat: While home brew work fantastically off-road and on roads covered with ice and hardpack (as they seem to be in Alberta), they're not so hot when they meet pavement. (Although according to my nephew, the sparks are impressive.) Likewise, commercial ones with steel studs also wear out quickly on pavement, and are better suited for off-road.
My tires have carbide studs, just like those in car tires, only shorter. I run Nokian Hakkapeliitta W106 in 700x35/38. They're 35mm wide, but the height of a 38. I'm entering my seventh season with them Upstate on Lake Ontario. At their current rate of wear, I estimate they've got another seven years left in them.
See https://peterwhitecycles.com/studdedtires.asp
One caveat: While home brew work fantastically off-road and on roads covered with ice and hardpack (as they seem to be in Alberta), they're not so hot when they meet pavement. (Although according to my nephew, the sparks are impressive.) Likewise, commercial ones with steel studs also wear out quickly on pavement, and are better suited for off-road.
My tires have carbide studs, just like those in car tires, only shorter. I run Nokian Hakkapeliitta W106 in 700x35/38. They're 35mm wide, but the height of a 38. I'm entering my seventh season with them Upstate on Lake Ontario. At their current rate of wear, I estimate they've got another seven years left in them.
See https://peterwhitecycles.com/studdedtires.asp
#34
Although I rarely see clear pavement on my winter commute or recreational rides, with a properly laid out DIY winter tyre there is little to no stud engagement until your tyres go off camber so in that respect they handle clear roads quite well.
They cleared the roads here last night... we got almost 10 inches of snow in rather short order and then warmer temps turned that compressed snow into oatmeal.
They cleared the roads here last night... we got almost 10 inches of snow in rather short order and then warmer temps turned that compressed snow into oatmeal.
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