You're drowning :(

Doing things is okay, I think.

You can feel it coming:

Sortie en mer

I can feel things sometimes, maybe.

Cool website, I think.

Make it to the end ;)

+1000

Ironic?

I don't think I started.

it bums me out that I have to work out so much just to counteract aging and working my way up to a desk job

I see that most people exercise less when they get old. But you need more exercise as you age, not less. As for being bummed about it, it helps to accept things and move on. Remember, life is hard and then you die.​

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I had a cheese Danish this morning after my bike ride. Never been happier.

People love drugs because they're an easy fix. They are the demand that keeps the symptom-treating medical system thriving.

See: http://www.bikeforums.net/commuting/...l#post17256970

Yeah yeah, you're the expert and people who disagree just don't know anything. Typical internet talk.

You're condescending position doesn't explain why there is a drug store on every corner in my city. If there were that many people with serious depression and no way out except with a drug kick start (which I acknowledge has its place), half the city wouldn't function.

See: nobody knows nothin'

Typical human talk.

:) I had some Chocolate Ovaltine. I defiantly was not unhappy.

I don't know that it relieves depression so much as it relieves stress, which if you have depression would provide some releif. On the days I commute, I notice I'm more relaxed not only during the day, but when I get home. When I drive, if I hit traffic I turn into Mr. Cranky.

I have mixed feelings about cycling/depression.
When i'm headed to work in 100 degree heat on my bike & people cruise by in their cars with the a/c on I feel a little down cause I miss my truck.
But when i'm rolling around the lake on my bike I feel peaceful.
Part of me wants to buy another truck cause that might make my life easier.
But part of me wants to live off the grid, & cycling makes me more independent...

No not necessarily, only ignoramuses who are proud of their glib BS'ing about a serious health condition.

As someone who has PTSD i can say that days i'm not riding are noticably more difficult than days that i do ride to get through.

As my rear wheel popped a third spoke in 4 months and no way to transport the thing on my own to the shop, i'm not looking forward to this down time which may be 2-3 weeks. I'm just glad the shop is closer & easier to get to on foot/via transit to go pick it up. I'll likely ride it home... :)

- Andy

Great link, thanks.:thumb:

I know that UNICEF ranks Amsterdam as having the happiest children in the world. I know that it has more to do with cycling, such as having access to education, good health care, etc. , but I can't get my mind off of those kids I saw when I visited there , having the freedom to safely cycle all over the place. That would have made me happy, that's for sure!

I definitely use cycling and running to keep myself in good mental condition. I had definite mental health issues in my late teens/early 20's. I never took meds, I turned to exercise and cognitive therapy. Now that my life is much more stable and I have more confidence, control over my own life, etc., exercise is still a definite mood enhancer. I can't help but be cheerful when I arrive to work on my bike. In fact, the worse the weather on the way there, the happier I feel when I arrive!:)

I hate this talk of whether or not drugs are appropriate. It is a subject for you and your doctor. I wouldn't tell an asthmatic that they can breathe easier if they just calm down.

This is true. The "why" part varies though.

You're right in that the need for drugs should be between the doctor and patient. But getting the best answer from someone who's training is limited to the use of drugs or surgery is unlikely, and that's why it's normal here to have so many people taking subsidized drugs with warnings like "(P)sychiatric side effects including cases of hypomania and mania, apathy, indifference, disinhibition (without concurrent hypomania), hallucinations, paranoid, suicidal or antisocial ideation, abnormal thinking, and panic attacks have been reported" at times when mass shootings have become more common. We'd be better off if it were normal for people with mild to moderate depression went somewhere for group exercising and to learn about nutrition (remember when health clubs used to do this?) and had those costs subsidized just like the costs of drugs are. But that's considered too costly and different here in the US, and comes across as telling an asthmatic that they can breathe easier if they just calm down.