First-time buyer.
#26
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A low end derailleur that is properly maintained will never miss a shift (unless under severe load), and a high end derailleur that is poorly maintained will behave finicky. I love the minimalist look of a SS/FG, but all the hype about ease of maintenance is nothing more than hype.
#27
I'll try to keep my SS evangelizing to a minimum, because there's a whole other board for that. All my bikes are singlespeed (giving me six speeds in total – easy quiz!), and ease of maintenance remains a draw despite my reasonable skills as a mechanic. Agree SS shouldn't be overhyped, but neither should it be discounted even if James wants to do some touring; I've gone much further than 5 miles with mine, without tedium. One option would be to get something with horizontal dropouts, making it easier to convert if desired, not to mention run that Rohloff if his budget expands...
Last edited by 905; 12-30-14 at 04:01 PM.
#28
I have to disagree, and you said it right in the first sentence of your post. Properly maintained. That takes time and work, be it a little or a lot. SS/FG eliminates that. I am not going try and argue my point of view here, it is what it is. I hope that the OP gets something that will work out for them, and their needs, be it commuting or touring or both.
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Bikes: 2005 Gazelle Golfo, 1935 Raleigh Sport, 1970 Robin Hood sport, 1974 Schwinn Continental, 1984 Ross MTB/porteur, 2013 Flying Piegon path racer, 2014 Gazelle Toer Populair T8
I have found that an IGH is the best compromise between derailleur shifting versatility and single speed simplicity for where, and how I ride.
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We're not talking about off road riding. In the street,it really takes alot to gum up a drivetrain. Riding through two 18+" blizzards didn't mess anything up on my ride,it just got dirty.
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Well, today I sold my car and bought my bike. I wound up getting a Gary Fisher Simple City 3, made by Trek:
2010 Fisher Simple City 3 - Bike Archive - Trek Bicycle
I really like this bike. It's got everything I need. It has a Shimano 3-speed IGH, which I definitely prefer over the single-speed I looked at yesterday. It does have a coaster brake in the rear, but it also has a front caliper brake for emergencies. I really like that I don't have to worry about the hub and rear brake gumming up. I'll be able to shift and brake regardless of weather, which is subject to change minute-to-minute here in Florida. It also has fenders, a chain guard, and a front rack and basket(not mentioned or shown in the Trek link above). Saddle and bar are comfy.
I got the bike new for $640, after tax. I may have been able to find a better deal at one of the other shops, but I'll be passing the Trek dealership everyday on my way to school, and it's also the closest shop to my home. So, future convenience factored in here. I should easily get two or three years out of this thing, long enough to plan and save for my next bike.
2010 Fisher Simple City 3 - Bike Archive - Trek Bicycle
I really like this bike. It's got everything I need. It has a Shimano 3-speed IGH, which I definitely prefer over the single-speed I looked at yesterday. It does have a coaster brake in the rear, but it also has a front caliper brake for emergencies. I really like that I don't have to worry about the hub and rear brake gumming up. I'll be able to shift and brake regardless of weather, which is subject to change minute-to-minute here in Florida. It also has fenders, a chain guard, and a front rack and basket(not mentioned or shown in the Trek link above). Saddle and bar are comfy.
I got the bike new for $640, after tax. I may have been able to find a better deal at one of the other shops, but I'll be passing the Trek dealership everyday on my way to school, and it's also the closest shop to my home. So, future convenience factored in here. I should easily get two or three years out of this thing, long enough to plan and save for my next bike.
Last edited by james1024; 12-30-14 at 10:56 PM.
#32
Interesting choice of bikes. Hopefully it will treat you well. It seems to have a lot of good compromises.
5 miles is a moderate commute. Not long, not short.
I am a big fan of toeclips (or clipless pedals, but for a daily commuter, I'd go with plastic toeclips & street shoes).
I was going to suggest also keeping an eye out for good used bikes. Or, perhaps a good used "road bike" will be your +1 bike sometime in the future.
5 miles is a moderate commute. Not long, not short.
I am a big fan of toeclips (or clipless pedals, but for a daily commuter, I'd go with plastic toeclips & street shoes).
I was going to suggest also keeping an eye out for good used bikes. Or, perhaps a good used "road bike" will be your +1 bike sometime in the future.
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Riding miles with a heavy backpack is not recommended.
Get a bike with threaded eyelets for a rear luggage rack. Pick a suitable rack and fit some modern panniers with quick-release locking hooks. Make sure the rack is compatible with the hooks. A lot of rack makers do funny things, you need simple round section lengths for the hooks.
Avoid suspension.
Fit bolt-on fenders
Upgrade the tyres to a reliable commuter style with good protection.
Those drop bar, disk brake cyclo-cross/touring bikes are neat but at your price bracket, a simple hybrid style is better value.
Giant Escape City is fully equipped and a good price.
Get a bike with threaded eyelets for a rear luggage rack. Pick a suitable rack and fit some modern panniers with quick-release locking hooks. Make sure the rack is compatible with the hooks. A lot of rack makers do funny things, you need simple round section lengths for the hooks.
Avoid suspension.
Fit bolt-on fenders
Upgrade the tyres to a reliable commuter style with good protection.
Those drop bar, disk brake cyclo-cross/touring bikes are neat but at your price bracket, a simple hybrid style is better value.
Giant Escape City is fully equipped and a good price.
#34
Riding miles with a heavy backpack is not recommended.
Get a bike with threaded eyelets for a rear luggage rack. Pick a suitable rack and fit some modern panniers with quick-release locking hooks. Make sure the rack is compatible with the hooks. A lot of rack makers do funny things, you need simple round section lengths for the hooks.
Avoid suspension.
Fit bolt-on fenders
Upgrade the tyres to a reliable commuter style with good protection.
Those drop bar, disk brake cyclo-cross/touring bikes are neat but at your price bracket, a simple hybrid style is better value.
Giant Escape City is fully equipped and a good price.
Get a bike with threaded eyelets for a rear luggage rack. Pick a suitable rack and fit some modern panniers with quick-release locking hooks. Make sure the rack is compatible with the hooks. A lot of rack makers do funny things, you need simple round section lengths for the hooks.
Avoid suspension.
Fit bolt-on fenders
Upgrade the tyres to a reliable commuter style with good protection.
Those drop bar, disk brake cyclo-cross/touring bikes are neat but at your price bracket, a simple hybrid style is better value.
Giant Escape City is fully equipped and a good price.
#35
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From: Looney Tunes, IL
Bikes: Wabi Special FG, Raleigh Roper, Nashbar AL-1, Miyata One Hundred, '70 Schwinn Lemonator and More!!
Well, today I sold my car and bought my bike. I wound up getting a Gary Fisher Simple City 3, made by Trek:
2010 Fisher Simple City 3 - Bike Archive - Trek Bicycle
I really like this bike. It's got everything I need. It has a Shimano 3-speed IGH, which I definitely prefer over the single-speed I looked at yesterday. It does have a coaster brake in the rear, but it also has a front caliper brake for emergencies. I really like that I don't have to worry about the hub and rear brake gumming up. I'll be able to shift and brake regardless of weather, which is subject to change minute-to-minute here in Florida. It also has fenders, a chain guard, and a front rack and basket(not mentioned or shown in the Trek link above). Saddle and bar are comfy.
I got the bike new for $640, after tax. I may have been able to find a better deal at one of the other shops, but I'll be passing the Trek dealership everyday on my way to school, and it's also the closest shop to my home. So, future convenience factored in here. I should easily get two or three years out of this thing, long enough to plan and save for my next bike.
2010 Fisher Simple City 3 - Bike Archive - Trek Bicycle
I really like this bike. It's got everything I need. It has a Shimano 3-speed IGH, which I definitely prefer over the single-speed I looked at yesterday. It does have a coaster brake in the rear, but it also has a front caliper brake for emergencies. I really like that I don't have to worry about the hub and rear brake gumming up. I'll be able to shift and brake regardless of weather, which is subject to change minute-to-minute here in Florida. It also has fenders, a chain guard, and a front rack and basket(not mentioned or shown in the Trek link above). Saddle and bar are comfy.
I got the bike new for $640, after tax. I may have been able to find a better deal at one of the other shops, but I'll be passing the Trek dealership everyday on my way to school, and it's also the closest shop to my home. So, future convenience factored in here. I should easily get two or three years out of this thing, long enough to plan and save for my next bike.
#36
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From: Kansas
Bikes: This list got too long: several ‘bents, an urban utility e-bike, and a dahon D7 that my daughter has absconded with.
Well, today I sold my car and bought my bike. I wound up getting a Gary Fisher Simple City 3, made by Trek:
2010 Fisher Simple City 3 - Bike Archive - Trek Bicycle
2010 Fisher Simple City 3 - Bike Archive - Trek Bicycle
Next, I would recommend a rear rack and a wald basket. It makes the bike significantly more practical. Further, it gives you a place to put your backpack when you tire of wearing it. The only other thing I would recommend is checking out Amazon and getting some lights. Both of these recommendations relate to life as a college student; however, they are applicable to any commuter.
As far as the bike itself, it looks like it will suit you well. Just make sure you remember to pack a small air pump and a patch kit, and have some chain lube at home.
Last edited by Robert C; 01-04-15 at 05:19 PM.
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From: Copenhagen, DK
Bikes: Specialized Roubaix Expert for the road, EBS skovcykel for visitors, and a Trek ST720 and a Cube Travel SL for commuting
give the guy a break on the speed thing...and to be fair there is something to what he says...not so much about the bike itself...moreso about the gear ratios...
for example, the bike he bought, let's assume it has a 42t chainring and he is capable of maintaining a maximum of 120rpm on his pedals, then the max speed he can produce on the 3rd gear would be 30.7mph...but if he were to put on a 22t cog instead of the factory installed 18t then it would only be 25.1mph...so there is a real difference in what is physically possible given a specific gearing...even if he can do more rpms, then the logic still follows...just at higher speeds
for example, the bike he bought, let's assume it has a 42t chainring and he is capable of maintaining a maximum of 120rpm on his pedals, then the max speed he can produce on the 3rd gear would be 30.7mph...but if he were to put on a 22t cog instead of the factory installed 18t then it would only be 25.1mph...so there is a real difference in what is physically possible given a specific gearing...even if he can do more rpms, then the logic still follows...just at higher speeds
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