tires for "chip seal"?
#27
Grespc15C, I was thinking the same thing - made me wonder if the stuff we see in Madison is better or worse? I've heard that the seal we have on our roads causes more flats, but I haven't experienced that (yet!). And, yes I still see new applications of it in the suburbs.
And of course different climates have different road problems. Here, the main killer of roads is freeze-thaw cycles. To protect a road from breaking up, it actually has to be sealed well enough that water doesn't get into the cracks
I've had my share of flats thanks to cheap tires, but most seem to be the result of glass on a certain stretch of bike path. At least, the flats that weren't self inflicted by careless tire installation.
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Tire widths on the three bikes I ride range from 32 to about 40mm. Central Indiana chip seal is tolerable with those tires. Lots of variation of chip seal surfacing by area.
Not sure if we were on any chip seal today - definitely very little smooth surfacing - but was impressed by the smooth ride of the 1.6" Marathon Supreme tires which are fairly new to our tandem.
Not sure if we were on any chip seal today - definitely very little smooth surfacing - but was impressed by the smooth ride of the 1.6" Marathon Supreme tires which are fairly new to our tandem.
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I wonder another thing, which is whether it even works to prolong the life of the roads. Maybe it's snake oil. One street in particular along my commute was just as lumpy a few months after chip-seal as it was before the treatment.
And of course different climates have different road problems. Here, the main killer of roads is freeze-thaw cycles. To protect a road from breaking up, it actually has to be sealed well enough that water doesn't get into the cracks
I've had my share of flats thanks to cheap tires, but most seem to be the result of glass on a certain stretch of bike path. At least, the flats that weren't self inflicted by careless tire installation.
And of course different climates have different road problems. Here, the main killer of roads is freeze-thaw cycles. To protect a road from breaking up, it actually has to be sealed well enough that water doesn't get into the cracks
I've had my share of flats thanks to cheap tires, but most seem to be the result of glass on a certain stretch of bike path. At least, the flats that weren't self inflicted by careless tire installation.

In a lot of the midwest, lots of rural roads aren't really paved with asphalt or concrete. They're gravel roads to which a chip seal topping
has been applied. They work pretty well for low traffic roads, say less than 200 vehicles a day. Because they're still really gravel roads, they move like them, and get heaves and lumps
#30
Paselas are outstanding tires for the price. Panaracer's Gravelking rides a little nicer, but it does cost more.
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What i've done on my old bike was have a 2 incher on the back and a 1.50 on the front. On new bike i have 1.50 on front and 1.75 on back... it works pretty well and the skinnier rear allows for a 80 psi vs 60 psi max which really helps rolling resistance on regular pavement and when i have stuff on the rack. I have a town/transport/utility bike, not a road bike, so... perhaps you could go to a 1.50 inch, or is that too wide?
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Grespc15C, I was thinking the same thing - made me wonder if the stuff we see in Madison is better or worse? I've heard that the seal we have on our roads causes more flats, but I haven't experienced that (yet!). And, yes I still see new applications of it in the suburbs.
#33
I need the tongue-in-cheek emoticon, all my road bikes have Paselas of appropriate width. I know I should try something lighter but every time I see riders on the road, fixing a flat, I love 'em even more. This time of year the crap on the side of the road is what's killing tires, worst than any chip seal I've seen.
#36
I don't like chip seal but it does lower taxes by extending road life. It's all about the correct tyres. It has been proven over and over again that skinner tyres don't help. The tiny contact patch increases rolling resistance for real life roads and the added pressure due to smaller contact patch increases flats.
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I don't like chip seal but it does lower taxes by extending road life. It's all about the correct tyres. It has been proven over and over again that skinner tyres don't help. The tiny contact patch increases rolling resistance for real life roads and the added pressure due to smaller contact patch increases flats.

- Andy
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OP didn't speak to other surfaces encountered on the commute or what size tires the bike would accept. If there are no sections of loose gravel where climbing is required, and the bike will accept wider tires, Marathon Supremes should work very well. 32, 35, 38 would all be an improvement, I believe. I ride some chip seal on weekend rides and barely notice the difference from regular asphalt on my 35mm's.
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OP here...
1. I weigh 163lbs.
2. The rest of my commute is regular pavement.
3. I will try 50-60 psi next time and take note of how it goes.
4. I'm leaning toward trying 32s next time i need tires...but not till then.
1. I weigh 163lbs.
2. The rest of my commute is regular pavement.
3. I will try 50-60 psi next time and take note of how it goes.
4. I'm leaning toward trying 32s next time i need tires...but not till then.
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Wow 10 Wheels! That doesn't look anything like the chip seal used around here. Those are boulders compared to the shards that are used on the roads as chip seal here in Wisconsin, namely Madison. I'd take a picture of it now but most of it is covered in snow - go figure, but this is Wisconsin.
The tiny pieces are supposedly more of a hazard to puncture bike tires, even the road work signs say for bicyclists to use an alternate route when they put this stuff down initially.
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Wow 10 Wheels! That doesn't look anything like the chip seal used around here. Those are boulders compared to the shards that are used on the roads as chip seal here in Wisconsin, namely Madison. I'd take a picture of it now but most of it is covered in snow - go figure, but this is Wisconsin.
The tiny pieces are supposedly more of a hazard to puncture bike tires, even the road work signs say for bicyclists to use an alternate route when they put this stuff down initially.
The tiny pieces are supposedly more of a hazard to puncture bike tires, even the road work signs say for bicyclists to use an alternate route when they put this stuff down initially.
And, as with washboard roads, the faster you ride the smoother the road
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Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
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Wow 10 Wheels! That doesn't look anything like the chip seal used around here. Those are boulders compared to the shards that are used on the roads as chip seal here in Wisconsin, namely Madison. I'd take a picture of it now but most of it is covered in snow - go figure, but this is Wisconsin.
The tiny pieces are supposedly more of a hazard to puncture bike tires, even the road work signs say for bicyclists to use an alternate route when they put this stuff down initially.
The tiny pieces are supposedly more of a hazard to puncture bike tires, even the road work signs say for bicyclists to use an alternate route when they put this stuff down initially.
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