saturnsc2

i'll have to check them out...

saturnsc2

alrighty I got the system all hooked up. new iq cyo premium with daytime running led's & the rear toplight view with brake light function. wow what a difference! ya the old cyo is a good light, but they made it better. nice bright wide beam & near field illumination. the bright wide beam really makes a difference in a dark park with tight twisty turns as the old one has a dark patch in front of the bike. peter white says on his website that bright city lights drown out the wide beam, but I can see it even under our bright city streets, but ya, the wide beam really shines in dark parks, & makes a big difference. the old cyo is now on another bike I have. I got the one with the daytime running led's & I think they add to the brightness because there's always 5 led's on when riding. the daytime led's are really bright in the daytime & makes you more noticeable & at night they dim to allow the road led to light up the road, but they all still burn pretty bright which adds to the brightness of this light. anybody who wants to buy this light get the one with the daytime running led's much better. when I had the old cyo off I tuned both lights upside down & I can see the different led in the new light. I also noticed that it's mounted on a metal heat sink unlike the old cyo which is seems to be mounted on a fiber board. the new light probably has better led cooling to go with the brighter led... I think these lights make better use of energy generated by the hub dynamo in the sense that they use more led's for more brightness instead of just just shorting out excessive voltage to protect the lights from burnout or failure, a better idea. why short out excessive voltage when you can use it to better light up the road??

the new rear b&m toplight view with the brake light function is really a cool thing. it's a dual led light & bright to begin with, then when you hit the brakes it get's brighter like a car brake light. totally cool & a great idea. it also has the condenser stand light like the cyo. this is a great lighting system & in no need of any upgrades now & anytime soon.

the old dtoplight led taillight was a good light of but again the new one uses dual led's vs a single one on the old light & they are both very bright, a much better noticeable light. the new led's come a long way since a while ago which makes new lights better.

anyway I highly recommend this system to anyone looking for a lighting system.

I didn't feel like waiting for the new 100 lux b&m light coming out as this one is just fine & a great price from Germany.

I actually like the beam of iq cyo premium better than the pics of the new light anyway.... the cyo throws a bright wide beam down the road, but the pics of the new light show brightness near the bike but it seems to taper off in the distance...

and on another note, it's important to properly aim these lights as to high it loses brightness & to low it's bright but no throw. I got it at a happy medium for long range brightness & not to overpowering near the bike...

seajaye

rando bike = edelux II with a toplight line brake+ in the back. set-up is great so far with many overnight rides on country roads. sorry, just catching up on the thread, but i definitely want to order a cyo premium for the commuter and get a toplight view brake+ and put that on the rando instead. i love the braketec feature and wish more lights (like any of the fender-mounted options) had it.

saturnsc2

more lights will have this feature i more lights will get this feature i bet as it's pretty new. i love the premium, but get the one like i did with the daytime running led's they are pretty bright in the daytime & even at night when they dim down their still pretty bright & give off light....

saturnsc2

speaking about dynamo lights I just installed these on my bike: ASA LED Light Up Aluminum Pedals SM 299s Bike Pedals New | eBay

these are so cool & very bright! gotta try them! they have a total of 6 led's in each pedal 2 in each reflector & 2 each pedal end. make's you really stand out in the dark a great idea for sure....

unterhausen

those pedals are self powered?

kickstart

Yes.

CliffordK

The pedals look interesting. Apparently not compatible with with my SPD cleats... yet. Also not toeclip compatible.

One note, however. I've used lighted leg straps at times and pondered whether to set them on flash vs steady. My conclusion was that steady was probably best as natural pedal movement would create contrast that the observers would see. Flashes + movement can give some bizarre effects depending on the frequency, and may not give the desired result.

unterhausen

I don't think it's important that pedals locate you in space, which would be the steady/flashing conundrum. When I have seen pedal reflectors, it has been intermittent. But they are very noticeable. In fact, I would still wear reflective bands.

rifraf

A language problem?
I'm sure he speaks German just fine.......

Relax, here in Aussie, whilst German postage is somewhat pedestrian, stuff from the USA is via courier pigeon by comparison.
I hated ordering things from the States as the postage is pricy and just plain slow usually.
The German stuff is usually DHL and the tracking is superior to the US's for overseas packages.
It'll get there, just ignore it for a few weeks.
Its often around 3 weeks Germany to Aussie but weather and the start to the Xmas season might be factors.

Buying from the EU and Germany in particular, from online stores, there is no VAT tax to be paid.
Ebay is usually dearer.
Check out bike24.com, starlike.com to name a few.
You need to read the checkout carefully to see when the tax is taken off.
Currently here in Aussie we can import up to $1000.00 before tax is added which when combined with 20% VAT taken off the German prices means a good deal.
All good things come to an end though and the new (current) govt is trying to abolish this perk for its people.

This isn't an anti USA rant.
I bought my Surly frame and Dyad rims from jensonusa and had great service if slow postage
Wheelbuilder.com is another USA based store I've frequented.

saturnsc2

has anybody got their hands on that new busch & muller iq-x 100 lux light yet? i see them on some online catalogs & most say comming in soon as early as february, but some other sites don't say if they have them yet, but you can order them. i seen a price of $170.00 on one of the sites....

saturnsc2

well these pedals still have reflectors, but led's in the reflector centers as well. a cool idea....

noglider 

@saturnsc2, I haven't tried that light. I tried a new-to-me B&M headlight last night and was rather delighted. I had a 350 lumen battery light mounted to the handlebar so I could compare. The battery light was brighter but far less useful to me because of the beam shape. I'll dig up the model. If it's half as good as the iq-x 100, the iq-x must be astounding.

kickstart

In stock, $99 + $35 for shipping.

Buy Busch & Müller LED Headlight Lumotec IQ-X Hub Dynamo Auto at HBS

corrado33

The funny thing is I actually have a dynamo now, but have nothing connected to it. I have no lights for it yet.

J.C. Koto

I'm curious, will you update this thread later with which model B&M you tried?

noglider 

I'd be happy to. I can't find the email from when I ordered it. I don't remember where I bought it. If the model is on the unit, I can read it. If it's not, I can post pictures and maybe someone can figure out what I have. If I don't chime in in a few days, please email me at the address below to nudge me.

fietsbob

my $100 Shimano Brompton wheel went on the Fritz, electrically. My LBS has an Account with Peter White.

so I got the New Schmidt XS dyno hub wheel .. just finished re doing the wiring to the B&M Eyc T.

Smaller, lighter, less magnetic drag , anodized , made with radial butted spokes, better electrical connectors.. Etc.

Garfield Cat

Does that mean throw and spread is related to candela and lux respectively?

noglider 

I checked, and my light is a Lumotec Premium Fly-T senso plus. I may not have the words in the right order.

No, throw is how far you throw the beam. Spread is how wide. Lux is how much energy is received at a certain spot specified in distance from the source by something like 10 or 15 meters and it may have its surface area defined, too.

noglider 

I checked, and my light is a Lumotec Premium Fly-T senso plus. I may not have the words in the right order.

No, throw is how far you throw the beam. Spread is how wide. Lux is how much energy is received at a certain spot specified in distance from the source by something like 10 or 15 meters and it may have its surface area defined, too.

J.C. Koto

OK, thanks! When you mentioned the 350 lumen battery light was brighter did you mean from the perspective of another road user looking at the light itself or brighter in how it was illuminating the surface of the road? Or both, I guess?

noglider 

The one hot spot from the battery light (Cygolite Streak 350) is brighter than any of the several hot spots from the B&M. And it's tricky to point the Cygolite to illuminate a large enough area of the surface at the right distance from the bike. Maybe there's a skill to it, but I don't have it. The B&M has an up-and-down adjustment. I just tilt the light from where I sit, and I can do it while in motion. That's a lucky thing, because the main LED doesn't stay on when the power source goes down, so I have to aim the light when the bike is moving over something like 5 mph.

Garfield Cat

I was looking at post #85 and that picture attempts to illustrate the meaning of Candela, Lumen, and Lux.

If we take a bare LED and give it juice, what happens? Does it need some kind of lense and reflector to produce Candela and Lux?

noglider 

No, I think you misunderstand these terms. These terms are measurements of energy. The LED produces light (energy) whether there is a lens or reflector or both or neither. Without a lens, though, the resulting light will be bad, i.e. not very useful. But the LED still puts out measurable lumens, and there is measurable lux on the object of the light.

See this wikipedia article.