battery-less front light
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battery-less front light
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I'm looking for a motion-powered front light (to be seen, but also to see), because I'm a bit tired of always having to worry about recharging the one I'm using now. I checked Reelight and they seem good, but the ones that mount on the axle are only visible from one side, which I don't like, while the ones with separate pieces for the dynamo and for the light are not suited for carbon forks, because the dynamo is attached with a very thin wire which might damage the fork. Before I start checking dynamo hubs, is there some cheaper option? As I said, carbon fork and disk brakes.
Thank you.
I'm looking for a motion-powered front light (to be seen, but also to see), because I'm a bit tired of always having to worry about recharging the one I'm using now. I checked Reelight and they seem good, but the ones that mount on the axle are only visible from one side, which I don't like, while the ones with separate pieces for the dynamo and for the light are not suited for carbon forks, because the dynamo is attached with a very thin wire which might damage the fork. Before I start checking dynamo hubs, is there some cheaper option? As I said, carbon fork and disk brakes.
Thank you.
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I think you are looking at a dynohub.
Several years ago I bought a dyno powered headlight on a clearance price, no switch on it. Sat on my shelf for a few years. Then I got lucky and got a low cost dynohub wheel that had been donated to a charity. Put it on my errand bike. In my case it is a Shimano hub, they are grounded to the fork, the light is also grounded to the mount, steel fork is conductive, thus one wire from hub to light was all that was needed. My fork has fender mounts, your carbon fork might not. But my light is off to the side far enough that the shadow behind the wheel is off to the side far enough that it does not bother me. I just used a piece of threaded rod and some nuts to mount it.
The light being this low gives a lot of shadows for dips in the road, etc., so if I was going to use this very much I would raise the light up higher but for my errand bike for short shopping trips it is adequate.
It however hangs up on some bike racks at stores.
Several years ago I bought a dyno powered headlight on a clearance price, no switch on it. Sat on my shelf for a few years. Then I got lucky and got a low cost dynohub wheel that had been donated to a charity. Put it on my errand bike. In my case it is a Shimano hub, they are grounded to the fork, the light is also grounded to the mount, steel fork is conductive, thus one wire from hub to light was all that was needed. My fork has fender mounts, your carbon fork might not. But my light is off to the side far enough that the shadow behind the wheel is off to the side far enough that it does not bother me. I just used a piece of threaded rod and some nuts to mount it.
The light being this low gives a lot of shadows for dips in the road, etc., so if I was going to use this very much I would raise the light up higher but for my errand bike for short shopping trips it is adequate.
It however hangs up on some bike racks at stores.

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I have dynamo lights on a couple of my bikes. I love them. They are very reliable. I've tried various dynamos, and I find that I prefer the hub kind. It takes more money and work to get them going, but it's worth it to me. I barely feel the drag from the hub. It's so small that I run my lights day and night. Another benefit of dynamo-powered headlights is that they are designed with a new beam shape that has a cutoff at the top of the beam.
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Yes, the drag of the dynamo hub, according to some research, is about 3% IIRC. That's not what bothers me. But I guess I'll keep an eye on offers for hubs and lights.
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Not really cheaper than a dyno hub, but cheaper than a new wheel with a dynohub (unless you rebuilt the wheel yourself): check the dynos from velogical engineering. Lightweight, solid product, works in rainy and slippery conditions as well. I has been discussed here in the forum before, search for it.
As a to-see light: B&M IQ-X. Don't know where you based, but if you're in states it might be cheaper to order it from a german online seller than buying it at peter white cycles.
As a to-see light: B&M IQ-X. Don't know where you based, but if you're in states it might be cheaper to order it from a german online seller than buying it at peter white cycles.
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Yes hub dynamos are expensive. Especially here in the US where they are not that popular. But you find them in Europe almost anywhere. I have a few bikes of mine equipped with hub dynamos and purchased the dynamos and even complete wheels in Germany and brought them back from my family visits in Germany. Some dealers might even ship to the US.
If you don't mind side mounted bottle dynamos but don't want them to mount on the carbon fork you can also mount them to the rear wheel if the frame is not carbon. One of my bikes has a rear mounted dynamo. You just need to make sure to purchase the correct model. There are clockwise and anti-clockwise turning models. They all generate about 3W and are sufficient to power the modern LED lights.
If you don't mind side mounted bottle dynamos but don't want them to mount on the carbon fork you can also mount them to the rear wheel if the frame is not carbon. One of my bikes has a rear mounted dynamo. You just need to make sure to purchase the correct model. There are clockwise and anti-clockwise turning models. They all generate about 3W and are sufficient to power the modern LED lights.
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I checked Reelight and they seem good, but the ones that mount on the axle are only visible from one side, which I don't like, while the ones with separate pieces for the dynamo and for the light are not suited for carbon forks, because the dynamo is attached with a very thin wire which might damage the fork.
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What you want then is something like these:
https://www.magniclight.com/en/
I've got the Mk1 set of these and I've supported the Kickstarter for the new brakeshoe type.
OR
https://www.reelight.com/
No personal experience
https://www.magniclight.com/en/
I've got the Mk1 set of these and I've supported the Kickstarter for the new brakeshoe type.
OR
https://www.reelight.com/
No personal experience
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Hello everyone.
I'm looking for a motion-powered front light (to be seen, but also to see), because I'm a bit tired of always having to worry about recharging the one I'm using now. I checked Reelight and they seem good, but the ones that mount on the axle are only visible from one side, which I don't like, while the ones with separate pieces for the dynamo and for the light are not suited for carbon forks, because the dynamo is attached with a very thin wire which might damage the fork. Before I start checking dynamo hubs, is there some cheaper option? As I said, carbon fork and disk brakes.
Thank you.
I'm looking for a motion-powered front light (to be seen, but also to see), because I'm a bit tired of always having to worry about recharging the one I'm using now. I checked Reelight and they seem good, but the ones that mount on the axle are only visible from one side, which I don't like, while the ones with separate pieces for the dynamo and for the light are not suited for carbon forks, because the dynamo is attached with a very thin wire which might damage the fork. Before I start checking dynamo hubs, is there some cheaper option? As I said, carbon fork and disk brakes.
Thank you.
Would I purchase it again? Probably not as I'm looking into bottle dynamos once this light burns out! However, it's so well made, I don't expect that to happen for years!
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Bottle dynamos seem to make the most drag. They are light and easy to install, however.
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What you want then is something like these:
https://www.magniclight.com/en/
I've got the Mk1 set of these and I've supported the Kickstarter for the new brakeshoe type.
https://www.magniclight.com/en/
I've got the Mk1 set of these and I've supported the Kickstarter for the new brakeshoe type.
Energy is drawn from the rotating bicycle wheels without any physical contact, and thus without friction.
By Lenz's law, an eddy current creates a magnetic field that opposes the change in the magnetic field that created it, and thus eddy currents react back on the source of the magnetic field. For example, a nearby conductive surface will exert a drag force on a moving magnet that opposes its motion, due to eddy currents induced in the surface by the moving magnetic field. [...] The current flowing through the resistance of the conductor also dissipates energy as heat in the material. Thus eddy currents are a cause of energy loss in alternating current (AC) inductors, transformers, electric motors and generators, and other AC machinery, requiring special construction such as laminated magnetic cores or ferrite cores to minimize them.
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Their claim of no friction is misleading though. There are forces being applied analogous to friction. You have to take your energy for the lights from somewhere.
According to wikipedia:
That being said, I kind of like their brake pad mounted version as a be-seen light so I might buy one one day.
According to wikipedia:
That being said, I kind of like their brake pad mounted version as a be-seen light so I might buy one one day.
Much cheaper than a hub dynamo set up. Easily transferred between bikes. Much cheaper.
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Look, I'm not hating on the tech. I think it's pretty cool. But I do have trouble seeing what the added advantage is over existing tech. And it doesn't help that I live next door to the country with some of the best and most affordable bicycle light technology. The US is just very expensive when it comes to dynamo wheels compared to the rest of the world.
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I can get a prebuilt dynamo wheel for 90, add a fairly decent front light for 20 (that's brighter at 40 lux than the 28 lux for the pair of the magnetic lights) and 10 rear light and you're only 5 more expensive than this setup. All that leaves you is a lighter setup that's easier to swap between bikes. Swap out the front light for a B+M Cyo Premium and it will vastly outshine the other option for 35 more.
Look, I'm not hating on the tech. I think it's pretty cool. But I do have trouble seeing what the added advantage is over existing tech. And it doesn't help that I live next door to the country with some of the best and most affordable bicycle light technology. The US is just very expensive when it comes to dynamo wheels compared to the rest of the world.
Look, I'm not hating on the tech. I think it's pretty cool. But I do have trouble seeing what the added advantage is over existing tech. And it doesn't help that I live next door to the country with some of the best and most affordable bicycle light technology. The US is just very expensive when it comes to dynamo wheels compared to the rest of the world.
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