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#1501
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From: Portland, Maine USA
Bikes: Trek 850 Antelope
What is the biggest, brightest rear safety light available that I can CLIP to the tab on the back of a pannier?
Strobe lights are preferable but I'm considering others,too. I'd like to get one that can be seen during the day!
I welcome your suggestions.
Powerhouse
Strobe lights are preferable but I'm considering others,too. I'd like to get one that can be seen during the day!
I welcome your suggestions.
Powerhouse
Last edited by powerhouse; 01-16-07 at 12:55 PM.
#1502
B.C. to D.C.
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From: between the Popeye's, the liquor store, the funeral home, and the strip club
Bikes: 1992 Miyata Nine 14; 1971 Raleigh Super Course fixie conversion; 2006 Jamis Nova (853 version); 2001 Diamondback Topanga (SS conversion); 1956 Rudge Sports; 1971 Raleigh Competition (processing); 199? Schwinn World Sport (processing)
Powerhouse--I've seen the movie of the Nova Bull--That really is an insanely bright rear blinkie. Don't know if it's clippable, though.
for my project, I'm getting down to soldering, and I ordered a 14.4v 5Ah pack of C cells from batteryspace to run my overvoltaged 35w project. I will post some pics very soon. When y'all say "overvoltaged 35w is rough on the AA batteries", this means ??? They drain pretty fast and get warm, okay, but does this just mean they will die faster? Or, will they light up the night in a large ball of flame?
Stupid question: is it not adviseable to throw in some variously charged odd batteries laying about the house on top of my bike light battery pack (not exceeding the smart charger's max capacity).
for my project, I'm getting down to soldering, and I ordered a 14.4v 5Ah pack of C cells from batteryspace to run my overvoltaged 35w project. I will post some pics very soon. When y'all say "overvoltaged 35w is rough on the AA batteries", this means ??? They drain pretty fast and get warm, okay, but does this just mean they will die faster? Or, will they light up the night in a large ball of flame?
Stupid question: is it not adviseable to throw in some variously charged odd batteries laying about the house on top of my bike light battery pack (not exceeding the smart charger's max capacity).
#1503
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Originally Posted by comradehoser
Powerhouse--I've seen the movie of the Nova Bull--That really is an insanely bright rear blinkie. Don't know if it's clippable, though.
for my project, I'm getting down to soldering, and I ordered a 14.4v 5Ah pack of C cells from batteryspace to run my overvoltaged 35w project. I will post some pics very soon. When y'all say "overvoltaged 35w is rough on the AA batteries", this means ??? They drain pretty fast and get warm, okay, but does this just mean they will die faster? Or, will they light up the night in a large ball of flame?
Stupid question: is it not adviseable to throw in some variously charged odd batteries laying about the house on top of my bike light battery pack (not exceeding the smart charger's max capacity).
for my project, I'm getting down to soldering, and I ordered a 14.4v 5Ah pack of C cells from batteryspace to run my overvoltaged 35w project. I will post some pics very soon. When y'all say "overvoltaged 35w is rough on the AA batteries", this means ??? They drain pretty fast and get warm, okay, but does this just mean they will die faster? Or, will they light up the night in a large ball of flame?
Stupid question: is it not adviseable to throw in some variously charged odd batteries laying about the house on top of my bike light battery pack (not exceeding the smart charger's max capacity).
Heat, whether on charging or discharge, is the enemy of nearly all rechargeable batteries.
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
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#1504
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Joined: Dec 2005
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From: Ft. Lauderdale FL
Bikes: Ebay Bikes... =)
I have since modified my light setup by attaching the 5Ah sla 12v battery to the seat-post frame-mounted water bottle cage.
I re-wired the whole thing and ran the PC power plug underneath and up to the battery power socket.
Pics will be up 2morrow =)
Battery comes right out and seems to be held down very tight all by itself..
So far so good !!!!
I re-wired the whole thing and ran the PC power plug underneath and up to the battery power socket.
Pics will be up 2morrow =)
Battery comes right out and seems to be held down very tight all by itself..
So far so good !!!!
#1505
B.C. to D.C.
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From: between the Popeye's, the liquor store, the funeral home, and the strip club
Bikes: 1992 Miyata Nine 14; 1971 Raleigh Super Course fixie conversion; 2006 Jamis Nova (853 version); 2001 Diamondback Topanga (SS conversion); 1956 Rudge Sports; 1971 Raleigh Competition (processing); 199? Schwinn World Sport (processing)
Originally Posted by cyccommute
Yes, for small batteries (low Ah rating) high current draw will shorten their life. For a detailed description go here. For your pack, you are pulling 2.4A from a 5 Ah battery which means you are drawing about half the battery capacity per hour. This is actually a pretty comfortable amperage draw for a rechargeable. If you were using a 2.5 Ah battery, you'd be on the edge. If you were using AA batteries (1.3Ah), you'd be killing them in no time flat.
Heat, whether on charging or discharge, is the enemy of nearly all rechargeable batteries.
Heat, whether on charging or discharge, is the enemy of nearly all rechargeable batteries.
#1507
Muscle bike design spec
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From: Sterling VA
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Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg
boosting my cygo nitro from 15 to 20W bulb doesn't seem to produce a noticeable change. Well, $3 for a bulb at batteryspace.com was worth a shot.
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#1508
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From: Denver, CO
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Originally Posted by robtown
I changed my cygo nightrover from 6watt to 10watt. In combination with a 8.4v RC battery pack I get blazing white light.
8.4V might be pushing the bulb a little more. Get some spares.
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
#1509
I found a schematic to a relatively simple battery indicator using a voltage comparator IC. Made some good progress today and just need to connect my battery and the LEDs (found a good LED bar to use).


Looks neat, huh?
BAM, mess

Looks neat, huh?
BAM, mess
#1510
52-week commuter
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From: Washington, DC
Bikes: Redline Conquest, Cannonday, Specialized, RANS
Originally Posted by dwoloz
Looks neat, huh?
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#1512
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Joined: Jul 2006
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From: south Puget Sound
One thing, though, switching from a Cygo(tm) halo bulb ($15 from LBS) to the $3 batteryspace.com one, I find that the new one is a teeny bit loose, so I think I want to get a new gasket to keep the headset (or whatever you call it) water-tight. Meantime Cygo has offered to overhaul my light to see if there are any shorts to explain its bulb-eating ways. w/ no replacement, I think I'm better off feeding it $3 bulbs that don't quite fit until the sunny season comes (May, hopefully).
#1513
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Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg
One thing, though, switching from a Cygo(tm) halo bulb ($15 from LBS) to the $3 batteryspace.com one, I find that the new one is a teeny bit loose, so I think I want to get a new gasket to keep the headset (or whatever you call it) water-tight. Meantime Cygo has offered to overhaul my light to see if there are any shorts to explain its bulb-eating ways. w/ no replacement, I think I'm better off feeding it $3 bulbs that don't quite fit until the sunny season comes (May, hopefully).
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
#1514
Hm
Trying to figure out whether I want the comparator chip running 24/7 or somehow get it to be switched with the lights (would complicate the wiring)
The datasheet says the chip draws 0.8 mA typical. Small enough to not worry about it? My Fluke 83 can't even pick up the amount of draw from it.
The LED indicators WILL be switched with the light though, those draw quite a bit more.
Trying to figure out whether I want the comparator chip running 24/7 or somehow get it to be switched with the lights (would complicate the wiring)
The datasheet says the chip draws 0.8 mA typical. Small enough to not worry about it? My Fluke 83 can't even pick up the amount of draw from it.
The LED indicators WILL be switched with the light though, those draw quite a bit more.
#1515
Hey, what do you know, it works

Putting it through its paces now. Have to adjust the resistance to get an accurate LED display (have to run the battery down though)
edit: IT WORKS

Im planning on now mounting the light bar into a project box with some other controls and my cyclocomputer. Using cat5 cable for the LED run.
Putting it through its paces now. Have to adjust the resistance to get an accurate LED display (have to run the battery down though)
edit: IT WORKS

Im planning on now mounting the light bar into a project box with some other controls and my cyclocomputer. Using cat5 cable for the LED run.
Last edited by BikeManDan; 01-25-07 at 12:51 AM.
#1516
Making some excellent progress
Went to 3 hardware stores today but finally found some nylong fasteners to attach my light. The light and bracket consist of an 11w Intermatic LV500 (found at Home Depot, 2pk $10), a bracket I never used from an Ikea bed frame bent into shape and secured with nylon screws and rubber and 3/4" conduit hanger for attaching to the handlebars. Had to go on a mission for some kind of non conductive fastener otherwise this kind of mounting couldn't work.


I'll be running two of these mounted to the bars
Starting work on a project box for housing the on/off switch, dimmer slide and a computer
Went to 3 hardware stores today but finally found some nylong fasteners to attach my light. The light and bracket consist of an 11w Intermatic LV500 (found at Home Depot, 2pk $10), a bracket I never used from an Ikea bed frame bent into shape and secured with nylon screws and rubber and 3/4" conduit hanger for attaching to the handlebars. Had to go on a mission for some kind of non conductive fastener otherwise this kind of mounting couldn't work.
I'll be running two of these mounted to the bars
Starting work on a project box for housing the on/off switch, dimmer slide and a computer
#1517
Enjoy

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From: Seattle metro
Bikes: Trek 5200
Has anyone tried Fiber Optic lights? I'm working on a project to improve close-up visability for Right and Left Turning cars to see the bike better. What started out as joke turned into a project.
https://www.bikeforums.net/commuting/263446-how-light-whole-helmet.html
Ideally, it'd be good to get the whole helmet glowing. Now I'm not so sure. Last night checked out some left over phosphorous paint that is used on fishing lores but beyond say 10' you can't see the glow at all.
https://www.bikeforums.net/commuting/263446-how-light-whole-helmet.html
Ideally, it'd be good to get the whole helmet glowing. Now I'm not so sure. Last night checked out some left over phosphorous paint that is used on fishing lores but beyond say 10' you can't see the glow at all.
#1518
Enjoy

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From: Seattle metro
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Dwoloz, These are good steady fasteners. On mine, I wrapped it around the stem and bored the hole bigger to loaded a toggle switch through the back. Adding the dielectric waterproofing paint and tape also.
Originally Posted by dwoloz
#1519
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vrkelley: see my responses in the original thread. makezine has instructions on how to hook up EL wire.
#1520
52-week commuter
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Dwoloz --
I ran a setup like that for a while and I want to warn you about two problems I had. One was that the light has no shielding toward the back and enough light escapes to be annoying. The other is that the brass tabs eventually fatigued and the light fell off.
What I graduated to was a tractor light housing that I got from JC Whitney (it's in an earlier posting). It cost about $10 and solves both problems.
I ran a setup like that for a while and I want to warn you about two problems I had. One was that the light has no shielding toward the back and enough light escapes to be annoying. The other is that the brass tabs eventually fatigued and the light fell off.
What I graduated to was a tractor light housing that I got from JC Whitney (it's in an earlier posting). It cost about $10 and solves both problems.
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#1522
Enjoy

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Originally Posted by comradehoser
vrkelley: see my responses in the original thread. makezine has instructions on how to hook up EL wire.
#1523
52-week commuter
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Originally Posted by dwoloz
Tractor light, eh. Sounds interesting, could you post a link? (not too interested in digging through this monster of a thread)
https://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w..._525434_525434
(The link in my original post is dead anyway).
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#1524
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From: northern California
Bikes: Bruce Gordon BLT, Cannondale parts bike, Ecodyne recumbent trike, Counterpoint Opus 2, miyata 1000
Once you have your tractor headlight go to Bulbtronics.com or some other supplier and get a 4509x 100 watt shielded filament PAR36 bulb to fit in the rubber headlight mount. Works best with a 14 to 16 volt battery and 12 gauge wires.
#1525
Muscle bike design spec
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From: Sterling VA
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Originally Posted by ken cummings
Once you have your tractor headlight go to Bulbtronics.com or some other supplier and get a 4509x 100 watt shielded filament PAR36 bulb to fit in the rubber headlight mount. Works best with a 14 to 16 volt battery and 12 gauge wires.
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All the parts cost me a buck and I figure its recycling otherwise unused parts