Here's a DX thread on the fake charger.

https://www.dealextreme.com/forums/F...hreadid.206189

Jeez..it's even pointed out in that thread that there is no evidence it's fake.

There is no evidence that it's real either. It doesn't look like known real ones and doesn't work like known real ones. Sadly the photos that were there clearly pointing out the differences are no longer up.

The above coupled with the fact that DX is well known for selling counterfeit goods is enough for me not to take the risk.

I've clearly pointed out why I'm suspicious of the charger; why are you so sure it's genuine?




EDIT:Judging by some of the products they sell I'd say ethics is at the bottom of DX's list......

Electronic Power Lock Pick Gun with W/L LED Illumination


HD Safety Disposable Medical Syringes - 1ml


Korea-KLOM Air Pump Wedge Vehicle Entry Tool


USB Magnetic Stripe Credit/Debit Card Track-2 Reader and Writer (75/210BPI)


Blank Writable/Rewritable 3-Track Low Density Magnetic Stripe Cards (10-Pack)

I think you should stop now, your efforts to discredit DX are starting to make you look a bit silly.

As I've said before, I use DX, but one needs to be well aware of what to expect when dealing with them. This is something that you misrepresent, and I believe it's intentional. There are plenty of other people here on BF who agree with me, and hopefully they also will fully inform people new to the world of high zoot flashlights just what to expect from Chinese sellers such as DX.

I do not misrepresent anything - you do.

Obviously people should be able to make an informed choice and should be aware that DX don't always get it right, but at the same time they ship a large quantity of products and 99% of customers are very happy.

There are many, many people using P7 torches from DX who are all very happy.

By all means represent the minority, but at least try to keep it proportional, you make it sound a lot worse than it is.

I've placed 23 orders in the last year, totalling more than 50 items. One item was lost in the post and replaced by DX, another was incorrect and quickly replaced.

Almost without exception everything I've bought has been pretty good or excellent, the one item I've been unhappy with was low value and I was unhappy with it more from personal taste than any other reason.

If everyone who has bought a WF139 charger posted here saying they were happy with it, then it would be proportional and you would be entirely drowned out.

As it is you are robbing people of the opportunity make an informed choice and to get accurate feedback on the items they are considering buying.

Just to make sure it's clear, I recommend items I have bought and KNOW to be of high quality and exceptional VFM. I don't believe that there is any reason why other people wouldn't want to know that.

By telling people of potential problems with DX I'm robbing them of the opportunity to make an informed choice? Do you know just how stupid that sounds? It might be news to you, but you aren't the only person here on BF that is able to have an informed opinion about DX and the potential problems with them.

Perhaps you have very low standards in regards to the goods you buy, perhaps you think cheaper is always better, but the fact remains that one must be careful buying things from DX, and making an informed decision about the goods you buy is difficult as often the specs and quality change from the reviews which one has read. I hope the drop-in I just ordered is decent......

P.S. I have no idea why you are going on about shipping as I haven't mentioned it at all. In fact, I've had good experiences with DX's shipping.

Not as stupid as your complete inability to grasp the fact that every time I have said PROPORTIONAL.

You are robbing other people of the opportunity to make an informed decision because you are blowing the small number of problems out of all proportion.

It's a very, very small percentage and given the opportunity DX will try to resolve any problems.

So by all means state your case, but how about keeping it realistic ?

When one person says something is good and another says it is bad it then appears to 50% to the uninformed.

However, I can't even say anything is good - regardless of the fact that I've bought it, tried it, often tested it - AND - I am trying to help another forum member - without you trying to shout me down every time.

I would have thought for the average person on here, a good recommendation from me, on an item I've bought and tried is a good thing, whereas someone badmouthing a product and digging up out of date non-relevent info from other sites is just wasting everyone's time.

Let DX be judged on what they are selling NOW and their customer service as it is NOW.

Thanks for your input, subject closed.

I would have thought for the average person on here, a good recommendation from me, on an item I've bought and tried is a good thing, whereas someone badmouthing a product and digging up out of date non-relevent info from other sites is just wasting everyone's time.
Yeah, you run every thread in this area, UC. *I* made a post also trying to update people on *ALL* the facts on a light you were hyping and you also minimised that point as best you could then too. Your opinion seems very very important to you, from what I can see. I personally would never buy anything that you alone tried and liked.

To get back on topic...did the OP find a mount ?



BTW. here's another mount that might interest you if you like velcro....



Universal Nylon Mount for Flashlights and Lasers

That mount would be great if the OP needed to light up the gutter and the not the street in front of him! The light would be mounted sideways, not straight ahead.

More bad advice from the DX 'fan boy'.

You do realise that it is possible to mount a torch onto the handlebar stem ?

I'd very much appreciate it if you would stop with the snide insults, there is - quite simply - no need for it, you make yourself look foolish and immature.

TIA.

So it points up in the air or directly down? Just how would you adjust the beam angle with that mount on a stem? Really, can't you just admit you made a mistake? For some reason this has turned personal for you. Why is that? We are talking about lights and mounts and you are all butt hurt that someone disagrees with you. And when you post ridiculous suggestions like the stem mount you aren't even man enough to admit you made a mistake.

It's not personal for me.

Immediately I recommend anything you make a negative post about it.

This thread is evidence enough of that posts #3 and #4, posts #18 and #19, posts #35 and #36.

You are the one with a problem, I've never insulted you, yet I've lost count of the number of insults I've received from you.

As well as deliberately disagreeing with every post I make you are rude, immature and are making a complete fool of yourself.

Anyone that reads this thread can see your behavior, it's not the first time you've done it and I'm not the first person you've treated like sh1t.

I'm very sorry for you and for whatever problems that you have in your life that make you like this.



Enjoy !!

Why are you ignoring the comments I made about the mount? I guess it is personal for you......

I don't deliberately disagree with whatever you write. Sad that you see it that way.I disagree when you tell only part of the story and refuse to acknowledge that you might have been wrong. It seems that you don't want the whole truth known about products that you like. Why is that?

Also not the only one to call you out on your biased reviews and habit of not telling the whole truth about products you like, and the nastiness you exhibit when someone disagrees with you. Other people see it too.

And yet you are the one repeatedly being insulting and mocking.

You accuse me of taking your attacks personally - yet YOU are the one getting personal.

Grow up. Accept that other people have different opinions from you.

Can we let the OP make his own mind up ?

I expect you've rubbished DX to the point where he won't consider buying perfectly good products from them, so if you've nothing left to accomplish can we move on ?

Have you even read what I've written? I mentioned in this very thread that I just placed an order with DX! Do you see the world in black and white or something?

If you don't need to remove flashlights, then you can make a perfectly adequate holder from stuff in your house.

I have 2 lights mounted on bar as follows:

1. cut an old rubber bar grip in half. mount one part to left of stem, other one on the right side. this provides vibration-dampening base for lights. rattling breaks circuits, either electrically or physically.

2. wrap several turns of duct tape around light. again, for vibration isolation, plus give two flexible surface which can bend and mate to each other better.

3. place light on bar. take 2 plastic electrical tie straps, aka zip ties, join them so you have plenty of length. attach light to bar dinotte-style with the zip ties, cinch down pretty tight. trim. position zip tie joints to reduce likelihood of cutting yourself on the sharp ends, also improve looks.

so, bar grip + duct tape + zip ties + some time.

it works and looks at least as good as all the usual mounting devices you can buy - except that its not easy to remove light.

How about when you need to change the batteries ?

Yes, I do indeed see the world in black and white.

YOU resort to snide deriding name calling 'fan-boy' (when you aren't calling me a prick for no reason) then you have the nerve to accuse me of taking things personally - which I would be quite right to do.

When the question of whether a DX product works well and is value for money, you mention lock picks, syringes, air pumps and swipe cards - what do they have to do with lighting ?

Why are you so desperate to rubbish DX ?

That explains a lot.

I'm not out to rubbish them; hell, I use them myself. What I'm out to do is paint a fair picture of them, warts and all. This is something which you refuse to do, and clearly will not be able to do with a black and white view of the world......

YOU resort to snide deriding name calling 'fan-boy' (when you aren't calling me a prick for no reason) then you have the nerve to accuse me of taking things personally - which I would be quite right to do.

When the question of whether a DX product works well and is value for money, you mention lock picks, syringes, air pumps and swipe cards - what do they have to do with lighting ?

Re-read the thread again for the context.

What's the point ?

It's not going to stop you being rude and insulting or bullying anyone who doesn't agree with you.

Is it ?

I'm a prick..ok got it.

Fan-boy the prick.

You know..this forum isn't here just for you.

Wow, that's rich coming from you!!