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Originally Posted by agarose2000
(Post 9944127)
Point to ONE bike manufacturer which can come up with something that would deliver 1+hr of useable lighting (not just a "to-be-seen" light) for <$100?
Though perhaps they don't qualify as a bike manufacturer? If not, the Planet Bike Blaze 1w is similar -- similar brightness, lasts longer, uses more convenient 2xAA rather than 4xAAA batteries, but costs considerably more. Still, you could get two for under $100. You can use a $20 P7 flashlight with 200+ lumens on medium for 2+ hrs easily. I also have a Cygolite 135 lumen light that was $75 or so after sale and discounts, and it's very adequate. It lasts about 4 hours with the included NiMH battery. It puts out less light than the P7 flashlight, but the beam pattern is far superior. It's not a better bargain, but it's also bike specific and under $100 and puts out a lot of light exactly where you need it. |
Tactical is a marketing term. What you really want to discuss is "mil-spec" or torches for proffesional LEO/Mill use. I only have experience with Inova, surefire and the DE P7. The reason some of these lights are so expensive is becuase of their durability. Would you trust your life to a P7 mounted to a rifle for weeks? I am not sure the quality of my P7 is even close to a US made mil-spec torch.
The new surefire e2d led fits in your pocket and can blast 200lumens with a tap of the tailcap. Combine its light output with some of its physical atributes and you have a great self defense tool. There are also intresnically safe lights. These are designed for high hazard enviroments, think flammable/explosive atomsphere, e.g. mines or hazmat cleanup. |
I just recently needed a lighting setup for a new bike I've gotten, and I did it before I found these forums. I looked at bike specific lights, and was very unimpressed with the price/performance ratio when it came to lights - I did some research, and found a good deal on a pair of flashlights - I got two of these for $52 shipped, spent $14 for six rcr123a batteries and a charger off ebay, and $5 for a helmet and a bike mount on dealextreme. I'm considering buying four more batteries for about six bucks, so I could throw 'em in my wedge pack.
Each light puts out 220 lumens for 2 hours, I've got one on my helmet and one on my handlebars. If I look like a dork because I have a "tactical" flashlight on my bike, I don't really care. I've got two 220 lumen lights so I don't die. Also, the eagletac lights don't have strobe mode, so I don't have to worry about that. All told I'm out $71, $77 if I decide to get more batteries so I have a four hour runtime instead of two. These are also waterproof, which is handy in Washington. Also, these have a 14 hour runtime in standard mode if I need a "be seen" light without a "see" light. I don't really feel any need to argue with people, this just seemed like the cheapest way to eat up some dark. And hey, if I'm going camping, I've got a couple pretty damn bright extra flashlights I can take with me. That's pretty cool too. edit: In case anyone's curious, here's the two mounts I got off dealextreme and my ebay cheapie batteries. I've had good luck with the ebay batteries. http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12000 (works good on the helmet) http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15642 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...%3DI%26otn%3D2 |
Originally Posted by KrisPistofferson
(Post 9943482)
I saw the Surefire ones at Loews the other day-Does anyone have an explanation as to why those things are $85 apiece that isn't an insult to the intellect?
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Originally Posted by turbominnow
(Post 9968919)
Tactical is a marketing term. What you really want to discuss is "mil-spec" or torches for proffesional LEO/Mill use. I only have experience with Inova, surefire and the DE P7. The reason some of these lights are so expensive is becuase of their durability.
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The picture of the gun in this article has a mounted flashlight - perhaps that's what they mean when they say "tactical" operations?
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009...op-killer-gun/ |
Switch your light on momentarily to locate your target, move, turn the light on again and open fire if necessary. That's the "tactics" in "tactical."
That's why a tactical light will have a forward-clickie (allowing momentary-on operation), often a grip ring to facilitate a "cigar hold," and a button that protrudes from the rear of the light for easy operation (as well as remote pressure-switch options, e.g. for a shotgun). Weapon-mounting hardware, filters and diffusers may also be available for the specific light in question. If they're built to be weapon-mounted, they should also be able to handle recoil forces. I imagine DealExtreme classifies any light as "tactical" if it has an assault bezel, of course ;) |
I just came back from a Forward Operating Base in Afghanistan and one of the USMC Gunny's I work with showed me his SureFire light somebody absconded for him and I was sufficiently impressed that I intended to buy one when I got back.
Then I got back, saw how much they were and what the run time was and decided to pass. Great light. Highly overpriced. Best tactical thing I've ever used on a bike was an Essential Gear VIP light. We use a variant of them in my job. John |
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