The Atozi spoke lights came in today. Haven't had a chance to try them on the bike but here's my initial impression from just trying them inside the house. The Green looks very nice and is quite bright, much more than the orange. Turns on/off with ease. The only problem as I see it might be keeping them in place. They just slide onto the spokes but there is nothing really to prevent them from coming loose ( although the bottom has a magnet. ) Not a big problem as I could easily just use some tape if I want to to be on the safe side. While they might hold their place without tape I'm not sure I want to risk it. Can't wait wait to try them on a ride.

If I can get them to slide over the spoke nipple they might be more secure.

I saw those on E-Bay, interesting. Why did you select green and orange? Supposedly you can only use amber for side lighting in America, it's the same law that applies to cars as it does to bicycles, but I don't think cops will care. I like the idea of it, and their a lot lighter then the ones that go on valve stems, just not sure how practical they are yet.

Instead of tape why not use very small zip ties and tie them on and cut off the excess?

Will they fit on bladed spokes?

Let us know what you think of the quality of the light, I bought a pair of button battery powered bar end lights and they were junky to say the least.

Anyway, let us know how bright they are at night, a video would be great but I/we understand if you can't do that.

Side and wheel lighting are one of those evolving issues that are going to change laws simply because the social acceptance of the devices are starting to become more common place. So far I've only seen a hand full of cyclist using wheel lights but I've seen many motorcyclist using colored side lighting. Green and blue being the most popular.

In retrospect this reminds me when decades ago it was considered unlawful if someone tried to watch a T.V. from the front seat of a car ( when portable T.V.'s first began to be marketed ). Now the whole "driver distraction" mentality is changed. Basically it was just one of those laws that no one wanted to bother to enforce. Now people have CD/DVD players on their dash, I-pads, smartphone's, tablets, laptops..etc. Somehow, someone figured it was impossible to stop technology once they "let the cat out of the bag" . This is why cell phone laws for cars are completely stupid and make no sense. I see people everyday talking on their phones while driving, playing with tablets, smartphones, GPS's etc. This and I live in a state with ( supposedly ) strict cell phone laws. The kicker is, I routinely see the local Co. police talking on cell phones while driving ( sans blue tooth devices ). I guess they figured out the same thing I did; blue tooth headsets are a PITA and no one ( but anal lawmakers ) gives a hoot anyway.

I've been using the multi-colored rimfires for a good while now. I've seen police on a number of occasions. They do what everyone else does, namely "just gawk"as I ride by. Wheel lights for bikes and motorcycles "should be legal" because they really attract attention which of course increases rider safety.

If someone were anal enough to haul me into court for using colored wheel lights I don't think I could stop myself from laughing. If I was told I couldn't use them I would just go out and use the Monkeylectrics. Since they display a video I would argue that they are no different than those mobile Video advertising trucks I see driving around. ( shades of Blade Runner .. ) Shouldn't be too long before almost everyone riding at night starts using wheel lights. ( not that a lot of people are riding at night anyway ) Still, people are well, copy cats for the most part. "Monkey see, monkey do". I'll not worry about the green/orange wheel lights unless I start getting warnings.

In the mean time almost every bike store I go into sells cheap wheel lights. Might take a couple years to get more popular but the more people use them the more people will want them.

Before we get to wheel lights, how about everyone making sure they have front and rear lights!

EXACTLY!!!! There are very few people where I live that use even reflectors not alone front and rear lights! Really there is no excuse today for not using lights because LED technology has made this very affordable for everyone. I asked the police captain here about why they don't give citations to riders that ride without lighting or reflectors, and he said that if a cyclist is hurt or killed at night without lights or reflectors it will automatically be the fault of the cyclist regardless who was really at fault.

In the 10 years that I've lived here and of all the cyclists I've seen I am the most lit up rider in the front and the third most lit up in the rear...big deal, out of 1000 or more cyclists that I've seen only about 25 to 50 even had lights! An maybe another 50 that had reflectors. I do know there is a single track group that goes out at night and those guys have some really strong front lights, but they don't travel the roads or bike paths, they park their vehicles at the single track entrance and ride from there.

Believe me, the green is really cool looking at night. I chose orange because orange is very near to amber. Not as cool as green though. No, I don't think they would work with bladed spokes ( unless you use wire/tape to keep them in place, then maybe ).

Instead of clear tape I might use some small wire ties ( like what's used on bread loaves ). I still haven't had a chance to ride with them yet so it's real important that they don't fall off ( or cut-out ) like the cheap valve stem types. I found out that if I push hard enough I can get part of the unit to slide onto the spoke nipple. This gives it a bit more holding power but I'm still not sure if I can trust it not to fall off once I start hitting bumps. Once again, I should be able to give it a good test provided I can get some good weather.

I'll see what I can do about a video. It wouldn't be long or fancy but I should be able to demonstrate the differences between the Atozi's and the Rimfires. No promise though on when I will get this done.

I think the Atozi's are going to work out great. As long as they don't cut-off while riding or have short run times I'll be happy. The nice thing about these is that you can take them on or off the wheel really quick. With the Rimfires I have to leave them on the bike because taking them on/off would be a PITA. With the Atozi's I now have the option to use them on my mountain bike as well. Not that I need them for trail riding but on occasion I will start mountain bike rides a mile or two from the trail head. I do this so my car doesn't have to be left in a dark secluded area or be parked in an area that is closed after dark.

Something else I just noticed. The Atozi's are versatile enough to be used in a variety a ways. Some ideas; I can slide one under my watch band. Great for letting the motorists see that you are signaling turns...under the shoe laces/straps....on your backpack...lots of possibilities.

I had the chance to try out the Atozi's last night on a quick test ride. Rather than use on both wheels I just put a couple on the front wheel ( and used the Rimfires on the rear ). I decided not to add anything to secure them. I figured if one fell off the front I should see it. I have to admit I am pretty impressed. When I got back I carefully checked them to see if they still looked secure. I didn't see any changes but then again I didn't hit any big bumps. I also tried sliding one of the Atozi's under my watch strap. That worked out as expected as well.

Compared to the Rimfires I think the Atozi's are brighter, at least with good batteries. The only question that remains now is how long the batteries will last. At least each one comes with extra batteries so that is something on the plus side.

Interestingly, when I started my ride last night it was already dark. As soon as I pulled out into the road a police car passed going the other way and slowed considerably. I turned my head around and noticed that they had pulled to the side of the road and stopped. I thought for sure they were going to come after me with my green Atozi's on my front wheel but I guess just a bit of paranoia on my part. At that point I turned around and decided to go right past them. Perhaps they just stopped to do other cop stuff...whatever. I like the green. I'll probably get another set of the green and then take the Rimfires off my wheels. With the Rimfires off my wheels I should be able to balance my wheels again.

The Atozi didn't look very bright on the You Tube video, and if you think about it the light can't be too bright due to the tiny button batteries it uses.

Yes, the one video I saw of the boy on Youtube was not very impressive. He must not of had a camera that was very sensitive to low light. When I said these are bright that is of course a relative statement and might have been misleading. They appear brighter compared to the Rimfires because the attached diffusers are longer and so give a slightly larger appearance. This translates over into making them more visible in some respect but the difference is minimal.

The Rimfires of course are using three leds per wheel and these look very good when riding down the road. I think if you used three Atozi's per wheel they would appear more visible. I'm only going to use two per wheel. One per wheel would be enough to draw attention as long as you are moving but I'm still going to use two per wheel for added kick.

Since the Atozi's are so easy to attach to the wheel ( no tools needed ) I can now pick and chose when and where I want to use them. I've already decided that it makes no sense to use wheel lights while on some of the rural road rides that I do. That's because some of those rides I will rarely even see a car and when I do it is usually from the front or rear approach where I already have a lot of visible light output. I can't see using up the small batteries unless it is really necessary. The nice thing about the Atozi's is that if I come up on a small town and I want a bit more visibility to cross traffic ( if there is any.. ) It only takes about a minute to pull the Atozi's out of my bag and attach them to my wheels.

Like I said before I'll try to get a video done. The only problem I have is uploading as I need a WiFi connection to do that. ( Sorry, I don't have a wireless router at home ) This means a trip to the local McD's.

That would be great to see another video, but I understand the technology hassle, I can't for some reason download pics onto any forum.