The dirty secret of dynamo lighting
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You could also secure wires with a dab of silicone. It's nearly invisible.
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I once had some clear plastic tape made for bookbinding, it was rather awesome, too.
There are also fine-gauge flat wires, where the wires are actually flat strips of copper and extruded together in a flat insulator. Attaching the push-connectors can be an issue, but it would fit flat to the bike frame.
I need to graduate from rows of zip-ties.
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Been there, done that!!
Works good for wires and other lightly stressed parts. I tape the wire to the frame, put a dab of silicon in various locations. Remove tape when slicon is dry. Had a fender that rattled where it went thru the forks. Shimmed the fender away from the contact point, made a tape reservoir then squeezed in a bit of silicon. A few hours later removed the shim and the silicon made a perfect virtually invisible gasket. No more annoying rattle.
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Ooh, good tip, okane!
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Lots of good tips here guys. I think I'm just going to be using a pvc-like material wire loom I was able to find and thus run that along where one of the brake/shifter lines runs along the top of the frame. I can't run anything along the bottom because it would interfere with how the adjustable bracket for the seat moves. Any wiring would have to have a lose bit of slack built in and would have to hang down underneath the seat for a ways to allow fore/aft adjustment. At some point I may dial in the seating position and never need to move it, but I predict that will be a few months away. It's just going to be easier to run the wiring along the top of the frame and through these enlarged holes in the seat bracket that are made to accommodate the brake and shifter cables and housings.
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Veloria, from the Lovely Bicycle Blog wrote about, and included lots of pics, her obsessive, but very clean loking method here: Lovely Bicycle!: Aftermarket Dynamo Lights: a Clean Look
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More thoughts; All the different kinds of tape ( packing, duct, vinyl ) have their uses. Eventually though the adhesive will weaken or the tape will stretch. Depends on the application. The more stress/weight put on the tape the faster it will fail. For just holding wires in place it shouldn't be a problem. Cable ties are more durable but they to have their limits. I used to use electrical tape to hold my speed sensor in place but because of the odd shape of my front fork the tape kept stretching causing the sensor to fall out of alignment with the magnet. It got so bad I had to reposition and re-tape it before almost every ride. That just wasn't working. I switched to a cable tie and now it's rock solid.
Glad to see that cable ties come in a variety of colors. Wish they made some in the color of polished aluminum. Gray silver they have but that doesn't blend well with aluminum. Frosted clear is probably best when using with bare aluminum.
Glad to see that cable ties come in a variety of colors. Wish they made some in the color of polished aluminum. Gray silver they have but that doesn't blend well with aluminum. Frosted clear is probably best when using with bare aluminum.
You mean like these? -
Amazon.com: Vktech 100pcs 11.8 Inches Stainless Steel Exhaust Wrap Coated Locking Cable Zip Ties: Home Improvement
I haven't used any yet, but I picked up a pack of these. They're about as bright and shiny as my girlfriends bare aluminum (ball burnished) GT frame.
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You mean like these? -Amazon.com: Vktech 100pcs 11.8 Inches Stainless Steel Exhaust Wrap Coated Locking Cable Zip Ties: Home Improvement
I haven't used any yet, but I picked up a pack of these.
I haven't used any yet, but I picked up a pack of these.
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Well, being a huge fan of Dynamos and not so much a fan of the wiring, I gave in and made the wiring a part of the design. Got this vintage twisted wiring and even using zip ties, it can enhance the look of certain bikes.
Awesome ideas on this thread - love the silicone/tape methods!!!
Awesome ideas on this thread - love the silicone/tape methods!!!
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I didn't reread the reviews just now, but I remember reading them before ordering the steel zip ties and thinking to myself that sometimes Amazon reviews are closer to youtube comments. I suspect some of the reviewers had trouble operating zip ties! O.o
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Well, being a huge fan of Dynamos and not so much a fan of the wiring, I gave in and made the wiring a part of the design. Got this vintage twisted wiring and even using zip ties, it can enhance the look of certain bikes.
Awesome ideas on this thread - love the silicone/tape methods!!!

Awesome ideas on this thread - love the silicone/tape methods!!!
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Oh WOW. I've been running those fenders for ages and never made the connection, so to speak. I did wonder why they had the clear spaces betwixt the aluminum strips. Thanks for that piece of information.
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I use Bike Shield. Amazing stuff. Pretty much invisible once applied properly, which for me includes cleaning surface and fingers with alcool before.
Comes in Matte or Gloss (which I prefer) and there are different sizes. Expensive but worth it. It's tough too, as it's meant to protect frames. I also use it where tie wraps come into contact with the frame and as a screen protector on my Garmin.
This is the piece I use to cover the wire for the length of the stem and I have another piece under the top tube protecting/holding the wire going to the tail light.
Comes in Matte or Gloss (which I prefer) and there are different sizes. Expensive but worth it. It's tough too, as it's meant to protect frames. I also use it where tie wraps come into contact with the frame and as a screen protector on my Garmin.
This is the piece I use to cover the wire for the length of the stem and I have another piece under the top tube protecting/holding the wire going to the tail light.
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Good to see replies still trickling in for this thread. I wired the dynamo up quite a while back and ended up routing the cable along the bottom of the main frame tube. I used plain clear packing tape to hold it in place with the intent of using a much higher quality 3M clear packing tape. Since then I've changed my mind and decided to use some Shimano Di2 wire loom to hold the wires in place where they run along the main frame tube. I received the Di2 stuff a couple weeks ago but haven't had time to put it on yet. I'll post back with my impressions regarding that option.
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FWIW, my first Di2 installation used it. Held for 2 weeks before I started making holes in my frame to wire what I could internally. Changed the whole bike since for one with internal routing. Quite sexy.
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Well, being a huge fan of Dynamos and not so much a fan of the wiring, I gave in and made the wiring a part of the design. Got this vintage twisted wiring and even using zip ties, it can enhance the look of certain bikes.
Awesome ideas on this thread - love the silicone/tape methods!!!

Awesome ideas on this thread - love the silicone/tape methods!!!
Cable still moves freely within the liner..
Planning a custom bike build ? consider this .. a special Schmidt hub and right fork dropout make the wiring connection with out a visible Plug.
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No extra steps, removing and reinstalling the wheel does everything ..
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