Looking for a loud horn
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I'm thinking now of getting a loud air horn not because of motorists but because of pedestrians in the park trail. No matter how many times I ring my bell or even yell out "excuse me!" I get no reaction until I'm almost right beside them. I don't know if they are all wearing earbuds or something but maybe the hoods on their parkas are contributing to more sound insulation.
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I'm thinking now of getting a loud air horn not because of motorists but because of pedestrians in the park trail. No matter how many times I ring my bell or even yell out "excuse me!" I get no reaction until I'm almost right beside them. I don't know if they are all wearing earbuds or something but maybe the hoods on their parkas are contributing to more sound insulation.
20 years ago, 1995:
- mobile phones were only just starting to become common ('least here in Australia), could not run "apps" and were hideously expensive
- portable music players were limited to playback of cassettes, maybe CDs, or radio reception
- tablet computers mostly existed in science fiction movies
There's a generation today who can't seem to fart without reaching for the nearest device to tweet to the world about it.
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I'm thinking now of getting a loud air horn not because of motorists but because of pedestrians in the park trail. No matter how many times I ring my bell or even yell out "excuse me!" I get no reaction until I'm almost right beside them. I don't know if they are all wearing earbuds or something but maybe the hoods on their parkas are contributing to more sound insulation.
Probably the former. Even when they're not hooded, they seem to be deaf.
20 years ago, 1995:
- mobile phones were only just starting to become common ('least here in Australia), could not run "apps" and were hideously expensive
- portable music players were limited to playback of cassettes, maybe CDs, or radio reception
- tablet computers mostly existed in science fiction movies
There's a generation today who can't seem to fart without reaching for the nearest device to tweet to the world about it.
20 years ago, 1995:
- mobile phones were only just starting to become common ('least here in Australia), could not run "apps" and were hideously expensive
- portable music players were limited to playback of cassettes, maybe CDs, or radio reception
- tablet computers mostly existed in science fiction movies
There's a generation today who can't seem to fart without reaching for the nearest device to tweet to the world about it.
Three groups of people and none of them can hear my bell ringing and I rang several times. As I got closer, I yelled out "Excuse me". No response. I keep on yelling "excuse me" until I'm almost breathing down their necks - that's when they finally take notice.
After passing the first group I have to repeat it all over again with the second group just a few steps further ahead. One of the guys was so oblivious to my bells and yells he actually walked into my path.
And then a third time.
And I always thought the clanging my u-lock makes against the rear rack would attract attention.
Maybe I will get an AirZounds.
Last edited by Daniel4; 03-08-15 at 03:40 PM.
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[MENTION=345638]Daniel4[/MENTION], just forget about all of this. Nothing will work. Learn to expect this behavior, and especially don't expect the second group to learn from the first.
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@Daniel4, just forget about all of this. Nothing will work. Learn to expect this behavior, and especially don't expect the second group to learn from the first.
It's incidences like this I'm sure are the main points pedestrians complain about cyclists sneaking up behind them or being rude with our yelling.
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Nothing seemed to have worked today. I'm going through the park trail. It's already an inconvenience when the pavement is dry and clear but it's winter and the trails are full of snow and I have to use the narrow tracks cut by previous users to climb up hills.
Three groups of people and none of them can hear my bell ringing and I rang several times. As I got closer, I yelled out "Excuse me". No response. I keep on yelling "excuse me" until I'm almost breathing down their necks - that's when they finally take notice.
After passing the first group I have to repeat it all over again with the second group just a few steps further ahead. One of the guys was so oblivious to my bells and yells he actually walked into my path.
And then a third time.
And I always thought the clanging my u-lock makes against the rear rack would attract attention.
Maybe I will get an AirZounds.
Three groups of people and none of them can hear my bell ringing and I rang several times. As I got closer, I yelled out "Excuse me". No response. I keep on yelling "excuse me" until I'm almost breathing down their necks - that's when they finally take notice.
After passing the first group I have to repeat it all over again with the second group just a few steps further ahead. One of the guys was so oblivious to my bells and yells he actually walked into my path.
And then a third time.
And I always thought the clanging my u-lock makes against the rear rack would attract attention.
Maybe I will get an AirZounds.
Perhaps its time to explore new paths?
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Just ride more slowly. When you approach pedestrians, don't expect to be able to maintain your cruising speed. Slow down so that if they don't get out of your way, you can slow even further or even stop completely.
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“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
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“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
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Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
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