50+ Weight Loss Challenge Monday mornings- Anyone Else?
08-22-06, 01:32 PM
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The skinny guys are gonna feel slighted...
08-22-06, 08:21 PM
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Can I play too?
In March the doctor told me to either do something physical or plan on starting on meds soon. I weighed 247, my BP was high and my sugar was near 200 but my A1C was only 6.3 so he thought weight loss would be a big step in dropping the sugar.
I lost a lot of weight pretty fast at first, and got down to 212 fast. At that point I didn't seem to be able to drop any more weight and even had my wife step on the scale to be sure it wasn't broken. I've finally made it down to 202 and seem stuck again. I did crash my R300 three weeks ago and my arm is still rather sore, so my riding has dropped off some.
I want to be in the 185-190 range by the time I'm finished but worry about winter loss of riding time and the fact that I'll be starting my second job soon (more lost time).
In March the doctor told me to either do something physical or plan on starting on meds soon. I weighed 247, my BP was high and my sugar was near 200 but my A1C was only 6.3 so he thought weight loss would be a big step in dropping the sugar.
I lost a lot of weight pretty fast at first, and got down to 212 fast. At that point I didn't seem to be able to drop any more weight and even had my wife step on the scale to be sure it wasn't broken. I've finally made it down to 202 and seem stuck again. I did crash my R300 three weeks ago and my arm is still rather sore, so my riding has dropped off some.
I want to be in the 185-190 range by the time I'm finished but worry about winter loss of riding time and the fact that I'll be starting my second job soon (more lost time).
08-22-06, 10:25 PM
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Can I play too? Or do you have to be one of the guys?
Starting weight June 2006 241
Current weight 188
That is 53 lbs lost
Do I get to be near the bottom of the list...wait, don't answer that
Starting weight June 2006 241
Current weight 188
That is 53 lbs lost
Do I get to be near the bottom of the list...wait, don't answer that
08-23-06, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by HILL SLUG
Can I play too? Or do you have to be one of the guys?
Originally Posted by HILL SLUG
Starting weight June 2006 241
Current weight 188
That is 53 lbs lost
Current weight 188
That is 53 lbs lost
Originally Posted by HILL SLUG
Do I get to be near the bottom of the list...wait, don't answer that
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08-23-06, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HILL SLUG
Can I play too? Or do you have to be one of the guys?
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Originally Posted by FarHorizon
OK, Denver - you're on. My cycling has been just about nil since my accident in early June & I've ballooned as a consequence. Time to get with the program again.
As of today: 267
As of today: 267
08-24-06, 06:36 AM
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You guys are too nice
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08-24-06, 06:39 AM
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[QUOTE=Big Paulie] Yeah, we can subtract. And don't rub it in, Twiggy...[QUOTE]
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Anyone else want to join me in this venture of posting your weight here each Monday?
08-25-06, 06:35 PM
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Tough to gauge without knowing folks height. I tolost 20 Lbs in the past year but am really having trouble shedding the last 10-15 lbs. I'm 5'7" and use to race at 142 back in my 30's, got up to 180+ am at 163 and will be happy with 155 but have really found it difficult to get there. Given I ride between 100-200 miles a week I would hope to lose weight but seem to have hit a plateau. Okay everyone, in the words of the Nike folks "Just do it"
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Originally Posted by FarHorizon
We ought to make this interesting - 50+er who loses the most receives a pie from all other contestants!
I mean, if you weigh 160 and want to get to 155, you don't have much of a chance of winning. If you are 300 you could lose 30 lbs pretty easily and still have a lot to go. However, given that, I am game. Perhaps a percentage of weight?
Do you mean 1 pie from EACH of the other contestants? That would be 25 pies, sort of defeating the purpose of what we are doing!
08-26-06, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by stercomm
Tough to gauge without knowing folks height. I tolost 20 Lbs in the past year but am really having trouble shedding the last 10-15 lbs. I'm 5'7" and use to race at 142 back in my 30's, got up to 180+ am at 163 and will be happy with 155 but have really found it difficult to get there. Given I ride between 100-200 miles a week I would hope to lose weight but seem to have hit a plateau. Okay everyone, in the words of the Nike folks "Just do it"
08-26-06, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Here is a LINK to the Body Mass Index (BMI) which I find helpful for weight goal setting. According to the Atkins Diabetes Revolution book, a BMI of 25 or less is normal weight. for me, at 75 inches, I would need to lose 60 pounds to get to 25. That would put me back at my Marine Corps weight in 1986, when I felt I was still too heavy. The fear of Type II Diabetes is what motivates me.
It is not accurate for folks who have significant muscle mass. This inaccuracy is recognized in the literature.
https://www.weightlossforall.com/useful%20info.htm
The BMI is a rough guide for normal, average people so wrestlers or strength athletes or weight lifters will have a high BMI but a low fat percentage. The BMI score is inaccurate for these types.
The BMI is a rough guide for normal, average people so wrestlers or strength athletes or weight lifters will have a high BMI but a low fat percentage. The BMI score is inaccurate for these types.
Likewise, I will never get to the "ideal" BMI, as I also lift weights, etc.
Many pro athletes and others "fail" the BMI.
OVERWEIGHT:
Barry Bonds: 6'2": 228 lbs: 29
David Boreanaz: 6'2": 218 lbs: 28
Tom Brady: 6'4": 225 lbs: 27
President Bush: 5'11": 191 lbs: 26
Nic Cage: 6'1": 210 lbs: 28
George Clooney: 5'11": 211 lbs: 29
Tom Cruise: 5'7": 170 lbs: 26
Matt Damon: 5'11": 187 lbs: 26
Johnny Depp: 5'7": 190 lbs: 27
David Duchovny: 6'0": 212 lbs: 29
Vin Diesel: 6'2": 200 lbs: 26
Cheryl Ford: 6'3": 215 lbs:27
Harrison Ford: 6'1": 218 lbs: 29
Brendan Fraser: 6'3": 234 lbs: 29
Richard Gere: 5'11": 187 lbs: 26
Ethan Hawke: 5'9": 172 lbs: 25
Hugh Jackman: 6'2": 210 lbs: 27
Lebron James: 6'8": 240 lbs: 26
Dale Jarrett: 6'2": 200 lbs: 26
Bobby Labonte: 5'9": 170 lbs: 25
Nick Lachey: 5'10": 180 lbs: 26
Karl Malone: 6'9": 259 lbs: 28
Dr. Phil McGraw: 6'4": 240 lbs: 29
Mark McGuire (playing weight): 6'5": 250 lbs: 30
Donovan McNabb: 6'3": 240 lbs: 30
Yao Ming: 7'6": 310 lbs: 27
Brad Pitt: 6'0": 203 lbs: 28
Keanu Reeves: 6'1": 223 lbs: 29
Cal Ripken: 6'4": 210 lbs: 27
Andy Roddick: 6'2": 197 lbs: 25
Will Smith: 6'2": 210 lbs: 27
Sammy Sosa: 6'0": 220 lbs: 30
Denzel Washington: 6'0": 199 lbs: 27
Bruce Willis: 6'0": 200 lbs: 29
Billy Zane: 6'2": 210 lbs: 27
OBESE:
Mel Gibson 5'9": 214 pounds: 32
Matt LeBlanc: 5'11": 218 lbs: 30
Steve McNair: 6'2": 235 lbs: 30
The Rock (Dwayne Johnson): 6'5": 275 lbs: 33
Arnold Schwarzenegger: 6'2": 257 lbs: 33
Sylvester Stallone: 5'9": 228 lbs: 34
Mike Tyson: 5'11 ½": fighting weight between 218-235: 30-32
Barry Bonds: 6'2": 228 lbs: 29
David Boreanaz: 6'2": 218 lbs: 28
Tom Brady: 6'4": 225 lbs: 27
President Bush: 5'11": 191 lbs: 26
Nic Cage: 6'1": 210 lbs: 28
George Clooney: 5'11": 211 lbs: 29
Tom Cruise: 5'7": 170 lbs: 26
Matt Damon: 5'11": 187 lbs: 26
Johnny Depp: 5'7": 190 lbs: 27
David Duchovny: 6'0": 212 lbs: 29
Vin Diesel: 6'2": 200 lbs: 26
Cheryl Ford: 6'3": 215 lbs:27
Harrison Ford: 6'1": 218 lbs: 29
Brendan Fraser: 6'3": 234 lbs: 29
Richard Gere: 5'11": 187 lbs: 26
Ethan Hawke: 5'9": 172 lbs: 25
Hugh Jackman: 6'2": 210 lbs: 27
Lebron James: 6'8": 240 lbs: 26
Dale Jarrett: 6'2": 200 lbs: 26
Bobby Labonte: 5'9": 170 lbs: 25
Nick Lachey: 5'10": 180 lbs: 26
Karl Malone: 6'9": 259 lbs: 28
Dr. Phil McGraw: 6'4": 240 lbs: 29
Mark McGuire (playing weight): 6'5": 250 lbs: 30
Donovan McNabb: 6'3": 240 lbs: 30
Yao Ming: 7'6": 310 lbs: 27
Brad Pitt: 6'0": 203 lbs: 28
Keanu Reeves: 6'1": 223 lbs: 29
Cal Ripken: 6'4": 210 lbs: 27
Andy Roddick: 6'2": 197 lbs: 25
Will Smith: 6'2": 210 lbs: 27
Sammy Sosa: 6'0": 220 lbs: 30
Denzel Washington: 6'0": 199 lbs: 27
Bruce Willis: 6'0": 200 lbs: 29
Billy Zane: 6'2": 210 lbs: 27
OBESE:
Mel Gibson 5'9": 214 pounds: 32
Matt LeBlanc: 5'11": 218 lbs: 30
Steve McNair: 6'2": 235 lbs: 30
The Rock (Dwayne Johnson): 6'5": 275 lbs: 33
Arnold Schwarzenegger: 6'2": 257 lbs: 33
Sylvester Stallone: 5'9": 228 lbs: 34
Mike Tyson: 5'11 ½": fighting weight between 218-235: 30-32
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08-26-06, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FarHorizon
And that's the whole point! The suggestion wasn't serious...
And as an aside, it doesn't matter if you're 300#, it's NEVER "easy" to lose 30!
The suggestion wasn't serious...And as an aside, it doesn't matter if you're 300#, it's NEVER "easy" to lose 30!
No, it is never easy to lose weight - I agree.
When I was 155 one summer, I tried to lose 155 pounds. Just couldn't do it! Man I was skinny. I spent the whole summer in the US forest service driving a 4 wheel drive International Truck with no springs over 4 whlle drive roads. That is one way to lose weight.
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Originally Posted by DnvrFox
Not that it really matters, I understand your point about BMI. I guess it's a bit like Max HR calculations (220 - age). It might be appropriate for some but not for everyone.
As a sidenote my father in law starts Insulin injection 'school' tomorrow after battling Type II Diabetes for about 5 years. A guy at work started injecting about 6 months ago. The only thing they have in common is a huge girth...
Not sure that I'll post every week but I'd love to get down to 75 kilos (165 lbs). When I did competition Judo (27 years ago) I fought under 72 kilos. I think that's unrealistic now but I'd like to get close
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08-27-06, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DnvrFox
Just a comment on the BMI.
It is not accurate for folks who have significant muscle mass. This inaccuracy is recognized in the literature.
I.e., my chiropractor, at about 5'5", weighs 180 lbs - all of it solid muscle. He has a BMI of 30, yet he doesn't have an ounce of extra fat on him.
Likewise, I will never get to the "ideal" BMI, as I also lift weights, etc.
Many pro athletes and others "fail" the BMI.
The BMI is simply the old insurance company height/weight charts with a new name.
It is not accurate for folks who have significant muscle mass. This inaccuracy is recognized in the literature.
I.e., my chiropractor, at about 5'5", weighs 180 lbs - all of it solid muscle. He has a BMI of 30, yet he doesn't have an ounce of extra fat on him.
Likewise, I will never get to the "ideal" BMI, as I also lift weights, etc.
Many pro athletes and others "fail" the BMI.
The BMI is simply the old insurance company height/weight charts with a new name.
That website is bogus...it's funded by the food industry, and others opposed to government obesity research. They cite no sources for their "data" and many of them are clearly ridiculous (Mel Gibson at 214 lbs and 5' 9"!!??).
FWIW, BMI is a reasonable surrogate for "fatness" for most folks. It's not a perfect measure by any means, but has been clearly identified as being associated with increased mortality due to heart disease, cancer, etc.
That said, body fat and/or waist-hip ratio are better numbers to look at for older folks (especially if you're one of the very small number of statistical "outliers"). It's fairly easy to measure - measure the waist at the abdomen (no stretching of the tape, or "sucking it in"). For the hips - measure the widest point with the tape held level.
For a healthy woman: the waist-hip ratio should be under 0.85.
For a healthy man: the waist-hip should be below point 0.90.
You can also estimate your body fat percentage with a tape measure using the "Navy" method:
https://www.he.net/~zone/prothd2.html
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OK...
I weighed this morning. My peak known weight was 421.5 pounds. I didn't weigh myself until after I had been watching what I ate for a few weeks because I didn't have a scale that would weigh me, so my highest weight was probably a little higher.
I have gained a bit lately... Ironically, I will be starting this at exactly 100 pounds below my max. My initial goal is 210
Week 0 (Aug 28, 2006) - 321.5
Week 1 (Sep 5, 2006) - 318.5 (-3.0 from Week 0)
I weighed this morning. My peak known weight was 421.5 pounds. I didn't weigh myself until after I had been watching what I ate for a few weeks because I didn't have a scale that would weigh me, so my highest weight was probably a little higher.
I have gained a bit lately... Ironically, I will be starting this at exactly 100 pounds below my max. My initial goal is 210
Week 0 (Aug 28, 2006) - 321.5
Week 1 (Sep 5, 2006) - 318.5 (-3.0 from Week 0)
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Originally Posted by SSP
That website is bogus...it's funded by the food industry, and others opposed to government obesity research. They cite no sources for their "data" and many of them are clearly ridiculous (Mel Gibson at 214 lbs and 5' 9"!!??).
https://www.actorarchives.com/mel/
Name: Mel Gibson
Birthday: 1956-01-03
Birthplace: Peekskill, NY
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 214 lbs
FWIW, BMI is a reasonable surrogate for "fatness" for most folks. It's not a perfect measure by any means, but has been clearly identified as being associated with increased mortality due to heart disease, cancer, etc.
I think few folks would disagree that increased "fatness" results in greater morbidity and mortality. I certainly wouldn't. The problem (as we have discussed many times before) is that the BMI has become some sort of "sacred number" for insurance companies, MD's, magazine articles, the general public and others with sometimes NO consideration for individual differences in body composition, muscularity and the like.
Which is the only point I have been trying to make - see my original statement.
Originally Posted by DnvrFox
It is not accurate for folks who have significant muscle mass.
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08-28-06, 06:27 AM
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Good news and bad. Rode a Centry on Saturday. Gained 3 pounds. Weight as of today = 224. I am 6'. Wish I coud say its all muscle, butits not. I should weigh in the 170's. I'll work hard this week.
08-28-06, 06:44 AM
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Starting 241.5
Last week 188
This week 184
Down 4 lbs this week for a total of 57.5 lbs lost
Keep up all the hard work everyone!
Linda
Last week 188
This week 184
Down 4 lbs this week for a total of 57.5 lbs lost
Keep up all the hard work everyone!
Linda
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Originally Posted by DnvrFox
Because it disagrees with you does not mean it is bogus. Any "funding" from the food industry does not make it invalid any more than does funding of the BMI from insurance companies and a vested government make it completely valid.
Why not be up front and honest and tell the folks that (as I remember) you sell software for training based on the BMI?
I think few folks would disagree that increased "fatness" results in greater morbidity and mortality. I certainly wouldn't. The problem (as we have discussed many times before) is that the BMI has become some sort of "sacred number" for insurance companies, MD's, magazine articles, the general public and others with sometimes NO consideration for individual differences in body composition, muscularity and the like.
Which is the only point I have been trying to make - see my original statement.
Why not be up front and honest and tell the folks that (as I remember) you sell software for training based on the BMI?
I think few folks would disagree that increased "fatness" results in greater morbidity and mortality. I certainly wouldn't. The problem (as we have discussed many times before) is that the BMI has become some sort of "sacred number" for insurance companies, MD's, magazine articles, the general public and others with sometimes NO consideration for individual differences in body composition, muscularity and the like.
Which is the only point I have been trying to make - see my original statement.
That website represents special business interests with a political agenda. They cite no legitimate sources for their assertions...instead, they've taken the largest weight values they can find on other (non-authoritative) websites. They also try to mostly include athletes with a lot of muscle mass to show how "wrong" the BMI is...unfortunately, the vast majority of Americans don't have high BMI due to high muscle mass.
As I noted above (and you snipped out), there are other measures besides BMI that have value (e.g., waist-hip ratio and body fat). For the small number of individuals for which BMI is not an appropriate measure of obesity, and for older individuals, these additional measures can have value. Perhaps you could include waist-hip ratio and body fat percentage in this challenge? Those numbers would clearly add more value than simple "weight lost".
As for my software...it includes analysis of BMI *and* body fat percentage, but is mostly concerned with weight and exercise tracking, and analysis of caloric deficit.