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Old 06-22-07, 05:49 AM
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I googled to see what I'd find. Found claimed increases of 10%, 20%, and one as high as 10x (think someone meant that x to be a % sign!?). I'm more of a recreational rider, and use mtb platform pedals, but I did buy and try some clipless pedals. I could tell my efficiency was increased, but didn't like that I couldn't move my foot around to a different position on the pedal, so went back to my platforms. Not a big deal for my type of riding, and what little of it I get to do.
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Originally Posted by Hermes
1999 article...plus do not forget that prior to clipless pedals all we had were cycling shoes with stiff soles and cleats. The steal cleats were screwed to the bottom of the cycling shoes and there was a groove in the cleat to fit on the edge of the pedal. Once into the toe clip, you pushed down to engage the pedal and pulled the leather strap tight. I had wooden sole racing shoes for stiffness and cleats which were state of the art at that time. Once you locked into these, you could not get out without reaching down and they were not comfortable.
My test was done using plain old running shoes with toe clips. I adjust the straps so they are easy to get in and out of, but do not pull out when riding hard.

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Originally Posted by George
I asked this question a few weeks ago and didn't get any replys. I know that they do increase your power output, but didn't know how much. I also read where they say to put the clips on your shoes as far back as they will go. The same if you have knee problems. In Andy Pruitt's book he recommends the clipless for more power output, but he didn't give any figures. I feel they helped me, but others say they don't.
Quoting from Andy Pruitt (Complete Medical Guide For Cyclists):
"...This placement works best for men's size 9 feet (European
sizes 41-42). Riders with longer feet will need more stability
and should move the cleats further back on the shoe to put
more of the foot in front of the pedal axle. In contrast, riders
with shorter feet..." You get the rest.
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I'm curious lpress, did you weigh the pedals and shoes?? Were the shoes
about as stiff as one another?? I don't wish to seem to be taking pot-shots
at you because you actually tried empirical analysis while I just sat at my PC.

There have been studies of how to pedal better but clipless is just a given.
That is true even with instrumented pedals. You might find High-Tech Cycling
by Ed Burke interesting. It was published in '96 and I found it remaindered.
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Originally Posted by head_wind
I'm curious lpress, did you weigh the pedals and shoes?? Were the shoes about as stiff as one another??
I did not weigh them, but the shoes seem very close in weight. (The one I hold in my left hand feels heavier, no matter which it is :-). The Shimano bike shoes are rigid -- the running shoes are both more flexible and more compressible. That stiffness may have contributed something to the gain when clipping in.

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Originally Posted by head_wind
You might find High-Tech Cycling by Ed Burke interesting. It was published in '96 and I found it remaindered.
It seems there is a subsequent edition -- you can get it at Amazon. It is a collection of articles by experts so this edition may be different.

Part of the appeal of the Internet is that non-experts can make valuable contributions. Discussing my amateur experiment with clipless pedals has been fun and illuminating -- if each of us did one such experiment, we would learn a lot!

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