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CrazyIvan 06-18-17 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by RonH (Post 19647620)
No one around here sells the MeMover but my favorite shop sells the ElliptiGo. I've been thinking about getting one of those but I keep asking myself (and so does my wife who usually supports my cycling 100%) why do I want to spend $1000 - $3000 for another exercise thingy? I already have my wonderful Litespeed :love: and a Cannondale CF high end road bike. :twitchy:

But I'm still thinking about it. :rolleyes:

I also have a Cannondale road bicycle, and a trikke, and a Me-Mover and I also weight train because I prefer cross training. Our bodies get used to certain exercises in a matter of weeks according to years of studies, we need to break the same physical conditioning to increase strength and stamina. For example, our core does not get much exercise while spinning, riding a Me-Mover works the core as well as many other different muscles. Propelling the Me-Mover requires more energy than a bicycle which has increased my endurance significantly, I can feel it when I ride my bicycle, and at 79 years of age, I need all the help I can get.
If you're interested in the Me-Mover I can point you in the right direction, they are not sold in stores, you can email me phillipschill@Yahoo.com.

McBTC 06-18-17 07:21 PM

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I've seen some dudes and a few couples moving on these elliptical bikes over the last 2 years-- I think there may be a rental firm by the beach... what I like about the whole idea of upright cycling is the efficient transfer of the limited horsepower a human is capable of generating, which I guess is what alternative devices like these must concede.

rydabent 06-18-17 10:40 PM

For any internal surgery you need done, robotic surgery is the way to go. I am 78 and had never had a operation in my life. When the procto doctor found a polyp he couldnt get at he sent me to a surgeon. With his Di Vinci robot he remove the bottom half of my ascending colon. I have 4 small incisions about one inch long on the left, and one larger one low on the right. One day less than 3 weeks I was oked for riding my trike. I went for a 20 mile ride with no pain at all. With the minimum invasion by the robot, IMO it is the way to go. The incisions were glued back together, and now at 5 weeks, all but gone. BTW the whole deal was pretty much pain free. Again if possible robot surgery is the way to go.

JanMM 06-28-17 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 19662013)
For any internal surgery you need done, robotic surgery is the way to go. I am 78 and had never had a operation in my life. When the procto doctor found a polyp he couldnt get at he sent me to a surgeon. With his Di Vinci robot he remove the bottom half of my ascending colon. I have 4 small incisions about one inch long on the left, and one larger one low on the right. One day less than 3 weeks I was oked for riding my trike. I went for a 20 mile ride with no pain at all. With the minimum invasion by the robot, IMO it is the way to go. The incisions were glued back together, and now at 5 weeks, all but gone. BTW the whole deal was pretty much pain free. Again if possible robot surgery is the way to go.

'pretty much pain free' major abdominal surgery is powerful testimony.

DougG 07-09-17 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 19662013)
For any internal surgery you need done, robotic surgery is the way to go. I am 78 and had never had a operation in my life. When the procto doctor found a polyp he couldnt get at he sent me to a surgeon. With his Di Vinci robot he remove the bottom half of my ascending colon. I have 4 small incisions about one inch long on the left, and one larger one low on the right. One day less than 3 weeks I was oked for riding my trike. I went for a 20 mile ride with no pain at all. With the minimum invasion by the robot, IMO it is the way to go. The incisions were glued back together, and now at 5 weeks, all but gone. BTW the whole deal was pretty much pain free. Again if possible robot surgery is the way to go.

My wife might disagree with you, as she found out that if something does go wrong, it's much more difficult to do a quick fix and they might even have to quickly get a surgeon in to open you up and stop the bleeding or whatever. She didn't need to have it go that far, but probably would have lost a lot less blood in an open surgery situation.

The Da Vinci surgeon -- the highest rated in the state -- said that she was a 1 in 500 case, but that's not much consolation if you're the "one!"

TejanoTrackie 07-10-17 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 19602677)
I :love: my Medicare Advantage Plan. Six years ago I had double hernia surgery, and my total copays for everything including pre-op testing and office visits with the general surgeon plus any meds was about $220. I am now beginning testosterone supplement therapy and my cost is zero, because my PCP says I need it and my copay for office visits at my PCP is zero. The only place where I'm running into a problem is with expensive drugs such as my Statin which is only partially covered by my medical plan, so I'm considering using online coupons from GoodRx instead, which will cut my cost in half.

So, today I took a prescription for my statin to a nearby Kroger pharmacy, showed the clerk a GoodRx coupon on my iPhone, and walked away with a 3 month supply for $33.73. Compare this to the $141.00 I had to pay the first time 3 months ago at a CVS pharmacy using my medical insurance's drug plan. Oh, and these new generic tablets are physically much larger, so they are a lot easier to handle than the first ones. This whole drug business is such a racket !

RonH 07-17-17 10:42 AM

I'm back!!!!! Got out this morning on the Litespeed for my first ride since May 30. Did a whopping 8.5 miles from my house on the Citrus County trail that connects Hernando to Crystal River. Its not flat like the Withlacoochee Trail so I feel good. :thumb:

bowzette 07-18-17 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by RonH (Post 19724825)
I'm back!!!!! Got out this morning on the Litespeed for my first ride since May 30. Did a whopping 8.5 miles from my house on the Citrus County trail that connects Hernando to Crystal River. Its not flat like the Withlacoochee Trail so I feel good. :thumb:


:thumb::thumb:

CrazyIvan 07-19-17 03:26 PM

79+
 
I have to know my red line, the mind say's go for it, the body not so much. Cross training with weights for about 54 years, I should know my limits, I do, most of the time except a few days ago on a seated leg press machine which has helped with speed on my bicycle and Me-Mover.
I over did the weight and reps which did a number to my legs and back, if I could I'd kick my own butt. Although I did notice significant improvement there are limits even at my age.

McBTC 07-20-17 07:40 PM

Saw new candidate for the 65'n and older T-shirt... If you Google stats on the bicycle market you can find industry market research on the changing demographics-- one demographic was riders over 65 who as a group were mostly male and rode more days per year than any other group. The >65 group was referred to as "geezer jocks."

revchuck 07-20-17 07:44 PM

That makes sense, of course, since a larger proportion of 65+ folks are retired than the younger part of the population. Still, I do like the "geezer jocks" description. :)

McBTC 07-20-17 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by revchuck (Post 19733918)
That makes sense, of course, since a larger proportion of 65+ folks are retired than the younger part of the population. Still, I do like the "geezer jocks" description. :)

Sort of self-effacing while putting on airs, ending as it does in a non sequitur. Boomer Bikers is probably more descriptive and save the 'jock' for old geezers who rode their age on New Years Day...

TCR Rider 07-21-17 03:28 PM

As of today I can officially post here. Good news is I'm still around to post here the bad news is I'm about to have a knee replacement so I'm looking at some significant shelf time.
I was planing on riding 65 miles today but that will have to wait for now. Managed to get in 25 and should crack 5000 for the year by the time I go under the knife.

RonH 07-21-17 03:33 PM

Best of luck with the TKR. Is a sport medicine doc doing it? The sports med docs I've known had you riding on a trainer or stationary bike within a week after the surgery.

TCR Rider 07-21-17 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by RonH (Post 19735986)
Best of luck with the TKR. Is a sport medicine doc doing it? The sports med docs I've known had you riding on a trainer or stationary bike within a week after the surgery.

Thanks. I have a hisory with the Surgeon who's working on me. He did my hip and knows I'm anxious to get back on the bike at as high a level as possible. Having it done at the Hospital for Special Surgery so I know I'm at one of the top hospitals in the world for orthopedics. I also plan on going to Rusk Rehab from the hospital. I'm just trying to put myself in the best situation to have a good result.
That being said there are no guaranties so I can only worry about what I can control and turn the rest over.

RonH 07-22-17 09:55 AM

Good luck with the surgery and keep us updated. :thumb:

RonH 07-22-17 09:56 AM

Our company is gone so got out again this morning for ride #2. Rode the Litespeed from the house along the county trail that runs parallel with SR486 and did the 6% grade hill. :thumb: Rode a total of 14.2 miles with a whopping 330 feet of climbing. Not bad for "flat Florida". :p

McBTC 07-22-17 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by TCR Rider (Post 19736083)
Thanks. I have a hisory with the Surgeon who's working on me. He did my hip and knows I'm anxious to get back on the bike at as high a level as possible. Having it done at the Hospital for Special Surgery so I know I'm at one of the top hospitals in the world for orthopedics. I also plan on going to Rusk Rehab from the hospital. I'm just trying to put myself in the best situation to have a good result.
That being said there are no guaranties so I can only worry about what I can control and turn the rest over.

What knee replacement product will they be using... if you know?

TCR Rider 07-22-17 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by McBTC (Post 19737371)
What knee replacement product will they be using... if you know?

That's a good question. I'm seeing the Doc on the 25th I'll ask him.

OldTryGuy 07-22-17 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by TCR Rider (Post 19736083)
Thanks. I have a history with the Surgeon who's working on me. He did my hip and knows I'm anxious to get back on the bike at as high a level as possible.........

Having a positive history with the surgeon is a major plus.

When I have my knees done I will be using my shoulder replacement doc. Total Right shoulder replacement last October and I was back on my bike in 3 days, 1 longer than doc said I could be, but that was of my own doing to being overly cautious. He is also the only knee guy who insisted that my tibia's be cut and straightened before he installs the new knees. Rickets as a infant has left me with a life of bowed legs and the worn, bone on bone joints, as a result.

Same with my prostate cancer when it most likely recurs. Prostate doc also said 2 days after last surgery for riding and I did 11 miles with the catheter still in place in 2 days. I belong to the exclusive "Foley Catheter-PEE as you Pedal Club." :D

TCR Rider 07-22-17 09:14 PM

When I had shoulder surgery , bankart lesion, I was back on the bike quickly but it was a trainer. I thought it would be too risky riding outside before it healed. Just not worth the risk of re-injury as I'm concerned. I've also had some experience with a foley and I've got to say riding a bike with that thing never crossed my mind.:eek: You sir are in a league of your own.

TejanoTrackie 07-25-17 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 19602677)
I :love: my Medicare Advantage Plan. Six years ago I had double hernia surgery, and my total copays for everything including pre-op testing and office visits with the general surgeon plus any meds was about $220. I am now beginning testosterone supplement therapy and my cost is zero, because my PCP says I need it and my copay for office visits at my PCP is zero.

Well, I guess I should have remembered the old saying "Don't count your chickens until they are hatched." I began getting testosterone injections, but my body has reacted badly to them. The first time I was very sore for four days, and the second time was even worse with major soreness for eight days. So my doc discontinued the injections and instead prescribed Androgel. Today I picked up my first 30 day supply and it cost $168.11, which computes to over $2K per year. Medicare does not cover this and my cost was reduced by using a GoodRX coupon at the best price location, which just happened to be my local CVS Pharmacy, otherwise the price would have been much higher. Also, this is a generic, not name brand Androgel, which is a higher percent concentration and even more costly. Still, this is not going to put me in the poorhouse, and I should be thankful that my overall medical costs are modest when compared to my income.

RonH 07-26-17 09:09 AM

Got out early today for ride #3. Rode the Cannondale on the county trail from home to the Withlacoochee Trail. Then rode about 1/2 mile and turned around for a total distance of 15.4 miles. For some reason the Cyclemeter app on my iPhone said I did a whopping 330 feet of climbing on my last ride but today it says I only climbed 304 feet. It was the same route as last time plus the extra mile on the W T. How can that be? :foo:

RonH 07-29-17 09:27 AM

Took the Cannondale out again today. Rode from home on the county trail and turned south on the Withlacoochee Trail. Turned around at the Russian Orthodox church and headed home for a total of 17.4 miles. My average speed was up a bit so I'm making progress. :) :thumb:

McBTC 07-29-17 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by TCR Rider (Post 19738516)
When I had shoulder surgery , bankart lesion, I was back on the bike quickly but it was a trainer. I thought it would be too risky riding outside before it healed. Just not worth the risk of re-injury as I'm concerned. I've also had some experience with a foley and I've got to say riding a bike with that thing never crossed my mind.:eek: You sir are in a league of your own.

Sound like -- from what I just googled -- that repair of the lesion is not related to implant surgery. Hip implants apparently have progressed to the point that some say experts could do them with their eyes closed. Knees are harder and I think shoulder implants are harder still (not sure where ankle implants figure in except that they may be more rare).

As a non-expert, an interesting factoid about knee TKA and revision surgery, as I understand it from experts in the field, soft tissue problems generally are not the big problem for the practiced surgeon; however, as soft tissue goes, I learned that you need to work the hamstrings from the beginning, even if you are not going into the surgery with hamstring limitations (called extension contractures) as flexibility there is the easiest to lose and hardest to get back. That is why they like it if after surgery you try to extend your leg when seated by resting your heel on a towel (which can be painful at that time).

We mostly were talking above about flexion contractures, according the terminology used in this interesting paper on the subjects:
As it turns out, I may have a better idea over the next 6-8 weeks or more based on some anecdotal experiences of a 2-stage knee revision recipient who happens to be a highly motivated cyclist, concerning the amount of flexion required to accommodate--e.g., 165 mm crank arms.

RonH 08-01-17 08:43 AM

My surgery was 2 months ago today.
Took the Litespeed out today. Rode from home to the Withlacoochee Trail and headed north. Went a bit farther on the W T and then headed home. Rode 18 miles and my speed was better too. :)
Another week or so and I think I'll be back to my pre-surgery level. :thumb:

TCR Rider 08-01-17 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by McBTC (Post 19754605)
Sound like -- from what I just googled -- that repair of the lesion is not related to implant surgery. Hip implants apparently have progressed to the point that some say experts could do them with their eyes closed. Knees are harder and I think shoulder implants are harder still (not sure where ankle implants figure in except that they may be more rare).

As a non-expert, an interesting factoid about knee TKA and revision surgery, as I understand it from experts in the field, soft tissue problems generally are not the big problem for the practiced surgeon; however, as soft tissue goes, I learned that you need to work the hamstrings from the beginning, even if you are not going into the surgery with hamstring limitations (called extension contractures) as flexibility there is the easiest to lose and hardest to get back. That is why they like it if after surgery you try to extend your leg when seated by resting your heel on a towel (which can be painful at that time).

We mostly were talking above about flexion contractures, according the terminology used in this interesting paper on the subjects:
As it turns out, I may have a better idea over the next 6-8 weeks or more based on some anecdotal experiences of a 2-stage knee revision recipient who happens to be a highly motivated cyclist, concerning the amount of flexion required to accommodate--e.g., 165 mm crank arms.

That is correct I did not have a shoulder replacement. The point I was making was that I think it is always advisable to spend some time on the trainer before you ride outside. Less chance of running into trouble on the trainer.
As far as flexibility issues and adhesions after TKR a lot of issues can be avoided by working on flexibility before and immediately after surgery. At least that's what I'm hoping as I'm scheduled for knee replacement on Sept 7. I'm still riding 175 miles a week and working out. Really doing a lot of stretching and trigger point work along with yoga and massage. I plan on going to a rehab after surgery before I go home and after that treating my rehab like my primary focus. The surgery is the Doctor's job the rehab is mine. That's how I treated my hip replacement and it worked out better than I expected.

McBTC 08-02-17 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by TCR Rider (Post 19761639)
...

I plan on going to a rehab after surgery before I go home and after that treating my rehab like my primary focus..

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…when the swelling comes down– that's when you can accomplish something. So, my take on it is that those things that help get the swelling down is job-#1 (full weight bearing as tolerated but otherwise, elevation, compression, icing). Of interest, however, recent studies now question whether CPM is of any help in achieving good ROM, although my guess is that there probably is some feedback benefit to be had for anyone who is not familiar with the pain involved and needs to see that the leg actually can bend...

speedlever 08-05-17 01:36 PM

I hit 65 during my 5 year hiatus from riding my bikes. Now on day 2 of being back in the saddle. Guess I'll just have to get used to going slow and steady... and not too far, at that. For now.

Still have my 50+ jersey too!

I guess the good news is that I qualify for this thread. Boy, time sure does seem to fly the older I get.

McBTC 08-06-17 07:26 PM

This is great... looks like I lived long enough to see common sense actually become more common-- super compact cranksets:

Super-compact chainsets: the next big thing for road cyclists? - BikeRadar Australia

As an old aficionado of triples with a 53 ring and huge capacity derailleurs, who has come to appreciate the simplicity of compact cranks, this answers my last remaining beef. Like the article says (and I imagine I'm not the only geezer who'd at the least appreciate closer spacing more than top end)...


How many normal riders actually spin out in top gear, even on a compact 50/36 chainset? Very few


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