Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Fifty Plus (50+)
Reload this Page >

Ultegra or Force

Notices
Fifty Plus (50+) Share the victories, challenges, successes and special concerns of bicyclists 50 and older. Especially useful for those entering or reentering bicycling.

Ultegra or Force

Old 04-03-10, 03:37 PM
  #1  
1NatsFan
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Greater Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 26

Bikes: Seven resolute-slx, Giant Iguana, Kona Smoke

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ultegra or Force

I am in the process of having a new bike built (A Seven Resolute SLX, steel road bike) and I need to decide between the Shimano Ultegra or the SRAM Force group sets.

What better wealth of knowledge to pose the question than to those who have been around a while and understand that, even with new technology, it's all about performance not style points.

So if any of you have an opinion as to which choice would be better, I would appreciate hearing it.

Thanks
1NatsFan is offline  
Old 04-03-10, 07:26 PM
  #2  
jdon
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,243
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 326 Post(s)
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
I have used Force, Rival, Red and 105. I just recently built up a Ti bike with Ultegra 6700 so only have about 600 miles on it. Thus far, I am very impressed with the smooth shifts. I prefer the double levers of Shimano to the double tap of Sram, but the Sram shift is quick, positive and accurate. It has taken constant tweeking to get the Ultegra just right and the Sram bikes require very little.

Next time I upgrade the bike, it will be back to Red. Just my preference though.
jdon is offline  
Old 04-03-10, 07:38 PM
  #3  
billydonn
Council of the Elders
 
billydonn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 3,759

Bikes: 1990 Schwinn Crosscut, 5 Lemonds

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have bikes with Rival and Ultegra 6600 and 6510 and like SRAM and Shimano equally. I favor SRAM brakesets though, especially the newer Force and Red but even the Rival is good. Assuming you are sure a tripple is not in your future, I recommend you take test rides and pick the one you like. I understand the new 6700 is not perfectly 100% backward compatible.
billydonn is offline  
Old 04-03-10, 07:59 PM
  #4  
Lonewolf48
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: kenosha wi
Posts: 123

Bikes: madone 5.1, lemond croix de fer, fuji touring

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have tried Dura-Ace, Ultegra, Ultegra SL, Ultegra 6700, Shimano 105, SRAM Red and Force. They are all terrific! SRAM Red and Dura-Ace weigh a little less and work great. The new Ultegra 6700 works every bit as good as the D-A. I would try both and see which one is more comfortable because the hood design is different and then pick the best gruppo I could afford. It is a fun decision to have to make, though if I was picking a gruppo for a custom Seven it would be SRAM Red or Dura-Ace 8700. Good luck.
Lonewolf48 is offline  
Old 04-03-10, 08:37 PM
  #5  
Metric Man
Old Fart Racing
 
Metric Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Draper UT
Posts: 1,347

Bikes: 2015 Trek Domane 6.9 disc D/A Di2

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I've run Ultegra, 105 and Force...currently on the SRAM Force and would do it again. I just like it better.
Metric Man is offline  
Old 04-03-10, 08:47 PM
  #6  
Kurt Erlenbach
Senior Member
 
Kurt Erlenbach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Space Coast, Florida
Posts: 2,465
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I don't have an opinion on the Ultegra v. Force issue, but I do have a question for the OP: Are you actually a Nats fan? They just finished up spring training here and, man, are they bad. I grew up an Indians fan, so I know bad baseball. You know what they say about Washington: First in war, first in peace, last in the National League.
Kurt Erlenbach is offline  
Old 04-03-10, 08:49 PM
  #7  
Robert Foster
Banned.
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Southern california
Posts: 3,498

Bikes: Lapierre CF Sensium 400. Jamis Ventura Sport. Trek 800. Giant Cypress.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I find Shimano smoother and SRAM more precise. I do like the SRAM 11-28 rear cassette however. If I do another build and I didn’t have either in the parts box I would buy Force rather than Ultegra.
Robert Foster is offline  
Old 04-03-10, 08:57 PM
  #8  
1NatsFan
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Greater Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 26

Bikes: Seven resolute-slx, Giant Iguana, Kona Smoke

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks for all the responses so far.

Yes, I am a very patient man. I am actually a Nats fan, although I did give up my season tickets after their first year of 100+ losses. But it was more fun to watch them lose last year as they at least had some offense.

But back to the original subject, I think I'm going to have to test ride them again to get a feel.

Mr. Foster, I'm not sure what you mean by "Shimano smoother and SRAM more precise." I've always felt if a bike was precise, the shifting tended to be smooth. If it wasn't smooth, it wasn't very precise. What am I missing?

Last edited by 1NatsFan; 04-03-10 at 09:10 PM.
1NatsFan is offline  
Old 04-03-10, 09:53 PM
  #9  
jdon
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,243
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 326 Post(s)
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Shimano shifts like a1990's Camry. Sram like a 1980's Mercedes 300.
jdon is offline  
Old 04-04-10, 12:39 AM
  #10  
'47
Senior Member
 
'47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 185
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Interesting that nowhere here is Campy mentioned.
'47 is offline  
Old 04-04-10, 01:21 AM
  #11  
stapfam
Time for a change.
 
stapfam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Posts: 19,913

Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Only ever used Shimano and never had a problem with it- but the higher up the spec you go- the better/ lighter/ smoother it feels.

Dare say it would be the same with Sram or Campy.

My LBS is into Campy or Shimano- but they do carry better stock of Shimano. I can go there and get any spare from the shimano range that I could possibly want- wheras I might have to wait for a Campy F.D. in the size I want. So what does your LBS Carry?
__________________
How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.


Spike Milligan
stapfam is offline  
Old 04-04-10, 11:29 AM
  #12  
HAMMER MAN
Semper Fidelis
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,000

Bikes: Tiemeyer Road Bike & Ridley Domicles

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
after years of running D/A/ my new felt I purchased about 6 weeks ago I put Ultegra 6700 on the felt. Personally I find it as quick, percise, and accurate as D/A. or sram.. more or less a personal preference I guess and how much you want to spend.
HAMMER MAN is offline  
Old 04-07-10, 06:11 AM
  #13  
khackney
Bicycle Luge Racer
 
khackney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 379

Bikes: Modern, old, fixed, mountain.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I haven't ridden the newest versions of Ultegra but I do have the 2010 Force group on my Ridley. Force requires much less fiddling to get it dialed in. Shifts are very quick with a very mechanical feel. My older Ultegra feels less precise to me although it works fine as well. I also have the 11/28 which I like a lot with a compact for hilly terrain. Force is also lighter than the Shimano groups if that matters to you. I thought about the double-tap shifting but I’ve found that I like it a lot. I’ve got groups from all of the three main players with one being SuperRecord-11. If I built up another bike it would be SRAM.
khackney is offline  
Old 04-07-10, 07:44 AM
  #14  
Rick@OCRR
www.ocrebels.com
 
Rick@OCRR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Los Angeles area
Posts: 6,186

Bikes: Several bikes, Road, Mountain, Commute, etc.

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 83 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 1 Post
I have Ultegra on my Calfee and SRAM Force on my Titanium GT and while both work well, if I had to pick for a new bike I would go with SRAM.

The next bike I build up will be equipped with SRAM Red. Red didn't exist when I built up the GT.

Rick / OCRR
Rick@OCRR is offline  
Old 04-07-10, 08:23 AM
  #15  
1NatsFan
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Greater Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 26

Bikes: Seven resolute-slx, Giant Iguana, Kona Smoke

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I decided on Ultegra because the shifting felt more intuitive to me, and during test rides I mis-shifted more with the SRAM.

Thanks for all of the feedback.
1NatsFan is offline  
Old 04-07-10, 12:43 PM
  #16  
Rick@OCRR
www.ocrebels.com
 
Rick@OCRR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Los Angeles area
Posts: 6,186

Bikes: Several bikes, Road, Mountain, Commute, etc.

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 83 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 1 Post
Originally Posted by 1NatsFan View Post
I mis-shifted more with the SRAM.
Yes NatsFan, There is a learning curve to shifting SRAM, esp. if your brain is already programed to Shimano or Campagnolo. Once you get used to it, no problem,

Rick / OCRR
Rick@OCRR is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jacksondf
Road Cycling
5
01-17-16 10:59 AM
martymartin341
Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg)
13
05-23-11 12:00 PM
ThinLine
Road Cycling
35
08-10-10 05:13 PM
Velo Gator
Road Cycling
74
07-28-10 04:12 PM
bikr13
Road Cycling
80
05-17-10 09:12 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.