Cycle Helmets
#152
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Way back before bike helmets were invented I was riding on the sidewalk (I was a kid, and that's what we did) and hit a sprinkler head. Bike stopped, I didn't, and I sumersaulted over the handlebars onto the sidewalk. Gave myself a nice concussion with dizziness, headaches, nausea, the whole nine yards. I was probably riding about 10 mph. Do I wear a helmet now? You bet. Why in the world would I want to go through that again, with all the knowledge we have now about what repeated small concussions can do to a person. Of course, it is your decision, but you asked for outside opinions!
#154
In 1982 I bought a Bell bicycle helmet and rode with it (and several replacements) for years without getting into a situation where I needed to rely on it for protection. Then in 2007 a dog came after me and ran under my front wheel. I hit the dog, then the pavement. My helmet did its job sustaining a large crack as it protected my head. I had a slight headache, that's all. After 25 years my helmet wearing paid off.
I did not realize how fragile our heads are until a few years ago when a family member tripped, fell and hit her head on the street. Due to the resulting migraines, memory loss and other cognitive difficulties she was unable to continue her work as a neonatal RN and had to retire early. Now I am even more vigilant about wearing my helmet.
A cynical fellow rider says that another name for non-helmet wearing riders is "organ donor.'
I did not realize how fragile our heads are until a few years ago when a family member tripped, fell and hit her head on the street. Due to the resulting migraines, memory loss and other cognitive difficulties she was unable to continue her work as a neonatal RN and had to retire early. Now I am even more vigilant about wearing my helmet.
A cynical fellow rider says that another name for non-helmet wearing riders is "organ donor.'
#155
In 1982 I bought a Bell bicycle helmet and rode with it (and several replacements) for years without getting into a situation where I needed to rely on it for protection. Then in 2007 a dog came after me and ran under my front wheel. I hit the dog, then the pavement. My helmet did its job sustaining a large crack as it protected my head. I had a slight headache, that's all. After 25 years my helmet wearing paid off.
I did not realize how fragile our heads are until a few years ago when a family member tripped, fell and hit her head on the street. Due to the resulting migraines, memory loss and other cognitive difficulties she was unable to continue her work as a neonatal RN and had to retire early. Now I am even more vigilant about wearing my helmet.
A cynical fellow rider says that another name for non-helmet wearing riders is "organ donor.'
I did not realize how fragile our heads are until a few years ago when a family member tripped, fell and hit her head on the street. Due to the resulting migraines, memory loss and other cognitive difficulties she was unable to continue her work as a neonatal RN and had to retire early. Now I am even more vigilant about wearing my helmet.
A cynical fellow rider says that another name for non-helmet wearing riders is "organ donor.'
MHL's are coming, I'm sure of it.
#156
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i work in the health industry, and while many (including one of our stupidest - and that's saying something - ex-governors) say wearing a helmet should be an "individual choice," it has society-wide consequences, especially for us tax payers.
Almost anyone with a severe closed head injury is going to require many years of medical attention, running into the millions of $. Even with insurance, there is frequently a cap, and for these types of injuries that cap is reached very quickly. Then what happens? The person who made the "personal choice" not to wear a helmet must apply for government sponsored health insurance: Medicaid, which will pay forever.
So it may be an "individual right" not to wear a helmet in some places, but in this case, there is a greater social good that easily triumphs such a silly "right."
Almost anyone with a severe closed head injury is going to require many years of medical attention, running into the millions of $. Even with insurance, there is frequently a cap, and for these types of injuries that cap is reached very quickly. Then what happens? The person who made the "personal choice" not to wear a helmet must apply for government sponsored health insurance: Medicaid, which will pay forever.
So it may be an "individual right" not to wear a helmet in some places, but in this case, there is a greater social good that easily triumphs such a silly "right."
#157
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...it will be a fall from more or less my own height sideways at a low speed.
#158
If you don't care about your health don't wear the helmet. I've had two falls and both times the helmet was fractured, but not my skull. One at slow speed and the other when a car hit me and I did have a concussion. Roll the dice mate.
Bill
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Oh god, I stopped reading this thread ages ago, but some evil tractor beam has drawn me back.
Maybe part of the issue is not whether it's better to wear a helmet (it is), but rather that helmets don't do their job as well as they should. If one does research on the relative safety of different helmets, one finds precious little information. CU has an article on its web site about children's helmets, but their older work on adult helmets doesn't cover helmet designs presently available and doesn't seem to be available on the web
Maybe part of the issue is not whether it's better to wear a helmet (it is), but rather that helmets don't do their job as well as they should. If one does research on the relative safety of different helmets, one finds precious little information. CU has an article on its web site about children's helmets, but their older work on adult helmets doesn't cover helmet designs presently available and doesn't seem to be available on the web
#161
Oh god, I stopped reading this thread ages ago, but some evil tractor beam has drawn me back.
Maybe part of the issue is not whether it's better to wear a helmet (it is), but rather that helmets don't do their job as well as they should. If one does research on the relative safety of different helmets, one finds precious little information. CU has an article on its web site about children's helmets, but their older work on adult helmets doesn't cover helmet designs presently available and doesn't seem to be available on the web
Maybe part of the issue is not whether it's better to wear a helmet (it is), but rather that helmets don't do their job as well as they should. If one does research on the relative safety of different helmets, one finds precious little information. CU has an article on its web site about children's helmets, but their older work on adult helmets doesn't cover helmet designs presently available and doesn't seem to be available on the web
What is really at the core of this continuous debate is that many would force helmets upon us upon us, for the contrary reason that it is "for our own good." Contrary? Yes. This is contrary because the advocates of helmets, themselves, admit the odds are exceedingly long that anything will happen to you will riding a bike.
Just go look at their websites - their own statistics support that you will be injured or die from myriad other ways, long before you succumb to a cycling accident. Or listen to them speak... " I wear a helmet, just in case...."
Sure, bad things happen to good people... we already know that. But they happen to people on ladders, riding horseback, swimming at the lake, or sick with the flu. And yes, occasionally, on a bike.
Hello? Any news there?
Yet, here they come with their constant, droning song that not only MUST you wear them, but you should be thankful to them for looking out for you. Oh, and you should also be happy to pay for the privilege of doing all this. Worst of all? You are a nincompoop if you resist.
The assumption on their part is simply this: Anyone who doesn't like helmets, or who may not be convinced of their efficacy, is too stupid to be allowed to look after themselves. Obviously, such mental cases need someone with more (self-appointed) sense than they have to take control of the matter, for their own good. "Social babysitters," I like to call them.
Just between us, I stopped needing a babysitter a long time ago. I prefer to make up my own mind.
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