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Old 08-21-11 | 01:00 PM
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Rode 27 miles yesterday am. (mountain bike, 1.1 slicks, on pavement) Had not ridden for nearly two weeks due to work and being off on a vacation. And just as always after a layoff, my breathing was ragged until about mile 8. Even when I ride regular have to put in a couple or three miles before my breating is regular and steady. Seems like I hit a point, like flipping on a light switch, when my breathing is good. And the longer I ride, the better it becomes. And the better my breathing is, the stronger rider I am.
I am 53. Is what I describe pretty common?
Also, notice that somewhere around mile 12 I start to feel really good. This euphoria will last long after my ride.
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Old 08-21-11 | 01:08 PM
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I don't know if I'm actually faster, but I feel fast after 30 to 40 minutes. I noticed last winter that my cold fingers stopped feeling cold after the same 30 to 40 minutes.

I never noted any ragged or smooth breathing to go with this, though. I'll have to see on the next ride.
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Old 08-21-11 | 01:24 PM
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Heart rate.

I ride on a monitor on the hard and serious rides. I have found that if I ride too hard too soon it will affect the whole ride----So---

Start of the ride and gentle till 1/2 mile in where there is a rise. Get heart rate up to 130 and then recover back to 120. Then up to 140 and recover again. Give it a couple of miles then up to 150 and it hurts a bit. Fully recover and then I can ride all day at 80 to 85 % of my max and just push it up a bit on the hills---Or even get to my max on some of them.

This takes about 10 minutes in total which is better than your 8 miles.

Without that warm up I cannot push myself and it even brings the body in aswell.
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Old 08-21-11 | 02:23 PM
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Warmups - essential, take it easy for a few miles.
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Old 08-21-11 | 02:37 PM
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When I was a kid doing other things breathing easier after a warmup was called getting your second wind. First part of anything we did was just getting warmed up and into our "second wind". Then all was well.
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Old 08-21-11 | 02:49 PM
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Back when I was a kid (in my late 50s) I had the same problem for the first 4-5 miles. Now I'm 66 and don't get warmed up until about mile 7-8.
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Old 08-21-11 | 03:00 PM
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The variations in metabolism is a weird and wonderful thing. I hike, ski and snow shoe in the mountains of New Hampshire and ride a bike in Rhode Island. No matter the activity, it takes me a good 15 to 20 minutes to thououghly warm up. Since I already know this, I always startout at a comfortable, easy pace and ramp up slowly. Some of my hiking/backpacking friends, on winter trips, in temps in the low 20s F will hike in shorts and within 10 minutes begin to unzip outer layers. I have actually seen a hiker in temps in the high teens drenched in sweat with no shirt. There is simply a vast spectrum of people with huge physical abilities and requirements.

On the cycling front, I also warm up very slowly but I did read about a pro cyclist preparing for a time trial warming up for 20 minutes. I seem to remember it was Chris Horner somewhere or other.

I go with my instincts about what feels right or healthy. If you warm up slowly, that is OK - go with that.
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Old 08-21-11 | 07:26 PM
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If I start off riding hard, it takes me 6 to 7 miles to warm up and get my breathing back down to normal. Starting off at a moderate pace (13 to 15 mph) for two to three miles seems to warm me up faster and eliminates the heavy breathing.
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Old 08-21-11 | 07:31 PM
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If you've watched pro cycling on TV you've most likely hear, "He can't seem to find his rhythm", or :now he's found his rhythm". Maybe that's all it is.... needing to find your rhythm.
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Old 08-21-11 | 07:33 PM
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If you've watched pro cycling on TV you've most likely heard, "He can't seem to find his rhythm", or :now he's found his rhythm". Maybe that's all it is.... needing to find your rhythm.
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Old 08-21-11 | 07:34 PM
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It often takes me about 5-7mi to get my body in tune with the bike and the road. On a favorite "TT" ride there is a rather good sized hill (a mile to the top) about 3mi in. And the breathing is up a little but I've not really noticed what you are calling ragged. Though one hill last week put me into MHR and hard breathing.

Yup, warm-ups are good. Sometimes it takes a little longer.
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Old 08-22-11 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NOS88
If you've watched pro cycling on TV you've most likely hear, "He can't seem to find his rhythm", or :now he's found his rhythm". Maybe that's all it is.... needing to find your rhythm.
The pros also warm up before a time trial. I think it is to get the acid out of their muscles. It takes me 1/2 mile easy, 1 mile about 70% then I can go & go & go.
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Old 08-24-11 | 02:41 PM
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Warmups - essential...
Yep. That says it all.

Warm up slow and steady. Let the magic do its thing and you've bought hours of strong spinning in the saddle.

Eight miles in heart zone 2 [fast walk equivalent] repays you handsomely.

...longer of course in really cold weather.
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