Spelling of derailleur
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Spelling of derailleur
Another grammer/spelling topic that you are free to ignore but...
I long ago decided to spell it "derailer" because it derails a chain from one gear to another. But I stop short of taking the more positive approach and calling it a re-railer. Guess I'm not one for traditional spellings.
I long ago decided to spell it "derailer" because it derails a chain from one gear to another. But I stop short of taking the more positive approach and calling it a re-railer. Guess I'm not one for traditional spellings.
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Sheldon Brown spells it as Derailer, with one "l". https://sheldonbrown.com/derailer-adjustment.html
Derailleur is of French origin, I would guess. Websters offers Derailleur and not Derailer or Derailler.
Derailleur is of French origin, I would guess. Websters offers Derailleur and not Derailer or Derailler.
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I'm all for simplification. I figure if you're going to call it a "derailleur," you should pronounce it "duh rye uhr," as it would be in French. But I see nothing wrong with calling it a "dee rai lee yer" and spelling it "derailer" as this is just the way languages (and spellings) evolve.
What really kills me is the "frenchification" applied to the faux-French word "pannier." A lot of people mispronounce it as "pan yay," thinking it must be a French word. In fact, the actual French word for those bags you clip to the rear rack happens to be "les sacoches." In France, a "pannier" is that basket in which you hold the bread. Or it could be the thing that makes the woman's skirt billow outward. "Pannier" (pronounced "pan yer") is actually an American Wild West word, and it refers to those bags carried on the backs of mules that prospectors used in the Gold Rush days. Its meaning has evolved to mean those big rear bicycle (or motorcycle) bags that serve pretty much the same function. So feel free to pronounce it exactly as it's spelled: pannier!
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What really kills me is the "frenchification" applied to the faux-French word "pannier." A lot of people mispronounce it as "pan yay," thinking it must be a French word. In fact, the actual French word for those bags you clip to the rear rack happens to be "les sacoches." In France, a "pannier" is that basket in which you hold the bread. Or it could be the thing that makes the woman's skirt billow outward. "Pannier" (pronounced "pan yer") is actually an American Wild West word, and it refers to those bags carried on the backs of mules that prospectors used in the Gold Rush days. Its meaning has evolved to mean those big rear bicycle (or motorcycle) bags that serve pretty much the same function. So feel free to pronounce it exactly as it's spelled: pannier!
Luis
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From Wikepedia: "Various derailleur systems were designed and built in the late 1800s. The French bicycle tourist, writer and cycling promoter Paul de Vivie (1853–1930), who wrote under the name Velocio, invented a two speed rear derailleur in 1905 which he used on forays into the Alps."
So, it's French....I guess you get a choice to spell it the French way or Anglicize (Americanize?) it if you like. My own preference is to use the language of origin. That's just 'cause I like language.
So, it's French....I guess you get a choice to spell it the French way or Anglicize (Americanize?) it if you like. My own preference is to use the language of origin. That's just 'cause I like language.
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My solution is to just rid my bikes of all them there dee ray ler thingies and replace em with real transmissions. That way, I don't have to fret over spelling.
Only, is it gearhub, or gear hub? Spell check doesn't like when you try to make it one word.
Only, is it gearhub, or gear hub? Spell check doesn't like when you try to make it one word.
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The one at the back is the RD and the one in front of me (I'm on 'bents) is the FD. Easy to spell and pronounce.
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How about the mavericks among us call it whatever the F they feel like, and the purists among us call it "derailleur".
Sample exchange:
Mav: "I had to pull a stick outta my chain-a-ma-jig today."
Pur: "You mean the derailleur?"
Mav: "You can call it that too, if you want."
And we move on.
Sample exchange:
Mav: "I had to pull a stick outta my chain-a-ma-jig today."
Pur: "You mean the derailleur?"
Mav: "You can call it that too, if you want."
And we move on.
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How about the mavericks among us call it whatever the F they feel like, and the purists among us call it "derailleur".
Sample exchange:
Mav: "I had to pull a stick outta my chain-a-ma-jig today."
Pur: "You mean the derailleur?"
Mav: "You can call it that too, if you want."
And we move on.
Sample exchange:
Mav: "I had to pull a stick outta my chain-a-ma-jig today."
Pur: "You mean the derailleur?"
Mav: "You can call it that too, if you want."
And we move on.
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Never mind how to spell it. I can see that! How do you pronounce it?
I have friends in Holland. We have an agreement. I don't laugh at the way they pronounce
English, they don't laugh at how I pronounce Dutch. We have remained friends.
I have friends in Holland. We have an agreement. I don't laugh at the way they pronounce
English, they don't laugh at how I pronounce Dutch. We have remained friends.
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Chain freedom thing.
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