Are we going to need a 90+?
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Are we going to need a 90+?
Here's a fun little read. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23252763
In a nutshell, we are seeing more people enter their tenth decade and doing so with better physical and mental health than ever.
In a nutshell, we are seeing more people enter their tenth decade and doing so with better physical and mental health than ever.
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There is a man that is probably 90, maybe more that is seen riding a local 10mi stretch to town. He may only be spinning 10mph but he is still alive, no doctors and nurses chasing him....and he is still cycling. He wears full kit and rides a modern upright bike.
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We just lost San Diego cycling legend, Gordy Shields, at age 95.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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It is entirely possible that many of us will reach into the 90's and beyond. Modern Medicine can replace almost anything in the body but the brain and so the odds are in our favor. The real question will be, can you afford to live that long? This is my bigest concern about retirement. If I looked at normal projections I could have retired in 2000, if I did I would have regretted it - my retirement funds would have been devastated in 2008 not to mention the soaring healthcare costs once you start to need the healthcare system. I think I should be able to retire by 2018 with multiple legs in my retirement plan but now that I look at what is happening in some major municipalities and what were pillars of industry (Bankruptcies wiping out "guaranteed pensions" and healthcare benefits) I am beginning to wonder. Detroit is filing for bankruptcy https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ional/2569481/
as many others have, thousands of pensioners may be left on the beach. There are no guarantees in today's world.
So I hope we all live to the 90's and beyond and I hope we all have the luck to dodge the financial machine gun fire coming our way, I just don't see how the system (public or private) can support us.
as many others have, thousands of pensioners may be left on the beach. There are no guarantees in today's world.
So I hope we all live to the 90's and beyond and I hope we all have the luck to dodge the financial machine gun fire coming our way, I just don't see how the system (public or private) can support us.
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Then there's this guy: https://bicycling.com/blogs/thehub/20...ycling-record/
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It is entirely possible that many of us will reach into the 90's and beyond. Modern Medicine can replace almost anything in the body but the brain and so the odds are in our favor. The real question will be, can you afford to live that long? This is my bigest concern about retirement. If I looked at normal projections I could have retired in 2000, if I did I would have regretted it - my retirement funds would have been devastated in 2008 not to mention the soaring healthcare costs once you start to need the healthcare system. I think I should be able to retire by 2018 with multiple legs in my retirement plan but now that I look at what is happening in some major municipalities and what were pillars of industry (Bankruptcies wiping out "guaranteed pensions" and healthcare benefits) I am beginning to wonder. Detroit is filing for bankruptcy https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ional/2569481/
as many others have, thousands of pensioners may be left on the beach. There are no guarantees in today's world.
So I hope we all live to the 90's and beyond and I hope we all have the luck to dodge the financial machine gun fire coming our way, I just don't see how the system (public or private) can support us.
as many others have, thousands of pensioners may be left on the beach. There are no guarantees in today's world.
So I hope we all live to the 90's and beyond and I hope we all have the luck to dodge the financial machine gun fire coming our way, I just don't see how the system (public or private) can support us.
If you "chose" long-lived ancestors and lead a healthful lifestyle, then you do indeed have a clean shot at living into your 10th decade. The real challenge is indeed financing a long retirement, as well as maintaining an independent, self-reliant, productive lifestyle and high quality of life as long as possible.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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It is entirely possible that many of us will reach into the 90's and beyond. Modern Medicine can replace almost anything in the body but the brain and so the odds are in our favor. The real question will be, can you afford to live that long? This is my bigest concern about retirement. If I looked at normal projections I could have retired in 2000, if I did I would have regretted it - my retirement funds would have been devastated in 2008 not to mention the soaring healthcare costs once you start to need the healthcare system. I think I should be able to retire by 2018 with multiple legs in my retirement plan but now that I look at what is happening in some major municipalities and what were pillars of industry (Bankruptcies wiping out "guaranteed pensions" and healthcare benefits) I am beginning to wonder. Detroit is filing for bankruptcy https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ional/2569481/
as many others have, thousands of pensioners may be left on the beach. There are no guarantees in today's world.
So I hope we all live to the 90's and beyond and I hope we all have the luck to dodge the financial machine gun fire coming our way, I just don't see how the system (public or private) can support us.
as many others have, thousands of pensioners may be left on the beach. There are no guarantees in today's world.
So I hope we all live to the 90's and beyond and I hope we all have the luck to dodge the financial machine gun fire coming our way, I just don't see how the system (public or private) can support us.
This also means that with so many old workers, working longer that the turn-over rate on jobs (old worker retires, they replace with young worker) also slows considerably. If I were 15 now, knowing what I do, I would get a trade, because many trades have a lot of older workers, so there should be a good turn over in the short to medium term. Plus you save the large debt load for a university degree.....
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However you really did miss my point, the point I was trying to make is that no matter what your financial condition - you may not have a rosy retirement, even if you had gold bars buried in the back yard. It is not that we are living longer that is the problem, rather it is much more systemic and to go into all that here would turn this into a right wing/left wing Fox news vs. MSNBC discussion.
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They must be quite tough to ride without gloves over that terrain.
A good friend of mine "works" as a volunteer firefighter. Her district includes the local nudist club and she assures me that the couple in the picture above would be among the younger folks at the club.

A good friend of mine "works" as a volunteer firefighter. Her district includes the local nudist club and she assures me that the couple in the picture above would be among the younger folks at the club.
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Here's a fun little read. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23252763
In a nutshell, we are seeing more people enter their tenth decade and doing so with better physical and mental health than ever.
In a nutshell, we are seeing more people enter their tenth decade and doing so with better physical and mental health than ever.
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Go to a bike race and look at the guys and gals racing in the 45 and up, and in the Masters section. A lot of them you would have no idea how old they are. For many of the others the only clue is the gray in their hair. I'm betting there are going to be a lot of very fit cyclists living to be quite old.
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"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Concur. The Fountain of Youth is no secret -- it takes aerobic and weight-bearing physical exercise, stress reduction, a healthful diet, mental engagement, a strong sense of purpose and commitment, and a resilient personality that can deal with loss and tragedy. Bicycling can be an important component.
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Holy smokes!! Here I am 10 months away from retirement at age 65 and now I need to wait until 90 for my next rite of passage? I better start working out for it.
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