I just couldn't resist, because it's true. The old and the new are what floats my boat. I wouldn't want to give up either. Just saying....

Does this have something to do with that new girlfriend?

J/K

Everyday is a blessing with that "new" girl friend of 36 years. No, this is a reaction to 2 threads that show how rigid we can be in our opinions. In one we see people describing new technology as ugly. In the other we see grades are being given based on how accurately the post meets the stated purpose of the thread. It all makes me a bit weary. Perhaps the impulse to start this thread was misguided, but the lack of respect for differences is troublesome. And I think there is a difference between tolerance and respect. But enough; I'm a bit overworked these days and need a long ride which is not forthcoming anytime soon.

I like bicycles.

well then, your boat shall always be afloat.

I don't take anything too seriously anymore....even myself

Oh no, what kind of grade am I going to get

Perhaps we need to start a grade chart - you know - Bell curve, variance, standard deviation, mean, mediam, mode, graph, etc.!!

I refuse to get involved in the "new" vs the "old" as in my situation financially, "new" is not an option and never has been. I have some higher priorities in my life.

Now that the Rohloff company is old enough and they keep making the same thing well ,
I got one.. the return to an internal gear hub

had a 3 speed when JFK was still above ground, and breathing.

Then got into derailleur bikes , still have several ..

but now the bike parking-mudroom has just IGH bikes ..
(you can push them backwards to get out the door , no matter what gear they're in )

As a teacher, I've had to stop myself many a time from grading a kid on attitude instead of performance. It was always rare... and gratifying... to have a student with a different outlook or idea who could also reasonably support his assertion.

What a boring place if we all carefully tiptoed around being agreeable and similar in outlook.

Given our ages and the fact we're still "out there" when others aren't-- despite our arthritis, old injuries, vaious medications, thinner skin (road rash on an old guy is much nastier!), etc. etc....... that should unite FiftyPlussers more than trivial differences over frame material or high-tech/low-tech.

My elderly dad used to say that after a while it doesn't matter what it looks like as long as it still mostly works.

I agree with NOS. I like old and new.

BTW, someone in here smells like peanuts....I like peanuts. (a variation of a quote from Willy Wonka)

I'm thinking standardized testing for the forum members............

I'm sure there's an app for that.

I remember asking my boss in my first job after university, at a concrete ready-mix plant, why there were so many people with university degrees driving concrete trucks (I wasn't a truck driver, thank goodness - for the safety of others), and he replied, "be thankful they are, if everyone was an engineer who would be driving the trucks?" It's diversity that makes the world we live in actually work - the balance is in respecting each other for what we do, and for what we believe. The bike forum is my current "ready mix concrete plant" - must continue to learn to acknowledge and accept others' beliefs, and feel free to express my own.

I have three of these in hanging schoolhouse lights in the kitchen. 26 watt CFLs. 1700x3=5100 lumens for 78 watts.




And six of these in the dining room. 40 watt carbon filament bulbs. Each is about as bright as a candle, and has the same warm quality of light. I can look right at the glowing filament without eyestrain. Maybe a few hundred lumens for 240 watts.



I wouldn't change out either of them.

Actually you probably will, in the next decade I think LED will probably replace both.

Isn't it great!? How so many differ so much in POVs or personal preferences! Cyclists are NOT immune to this. Our differences vary just as widely as non cyclists.

What if we were all exactly the same? Pretty scary.

Of course we have different points of view; however, people forget that mine are the correct ones.

I like women....

Riding bicycles....

Wearing tiny, tight shorts....

Smiling at me....

I like that!

To the OP, I don't mind people having strong opinions one way or the other. As long as they respect my right to disagree, it is all good to me.

"I may disagree with your bumper sticker, but I will defend to the death your right to stick it".

Me too. Like yourself, I have a 89 Specialized Sirrus, newly oldened with Brooks seat and tape. I liken it to my 24 year old Mercedes wagon, not nippy but the vehicle of choice for a long day or tour.

And a sports car equivalent Rocky Mountain road bike. Love 'em both - the daily choice depends on the planned route