Shimming flat peddals?
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Shimming flat peddals?
So I'm going on a tour soon and tried the clips-less and didn't like them and also didn't like that I'd need to use special shoes so I'm sticking with flats. However, ever since I started going for 40+ish miles I notice my right foot gets tingly and my upper right leg gets sore. I thought I just needed a bike fit so I got one and the problem persisted. The guy I went to will let me come back for 6 months with no charge and the last time I went to him he said I need my right foot shimmed and since I don't ride clip-less it is more difficult to shim my foot.
So, I have some Keen sandals I want to ride with on my tour in Latin America so shimming them isn't really an option. I was thinking if I got flats that have the replaceable bolts I could possible get longer bolts the same thread and connect a shim to them the same thickness on both sides of the peddle. I have a clip that goes around my toe, I like those, so my foot will always be in the same position other than when I want to ride without the toe and use the other side of the peddle. The bolts will still go above the ship to hold my shoe in place, if that makes sense.
Anyway, provided this works is it a wise thing to do? Will this progressively get worse if I don't fix it in my shoes? I couldn't actually check to see if I walked more on the outside of my right foot until I visited my parent's house and looked at a shoe I had in high school (luckily, in this instance, my parents never throw anything away) and sure enough on my right foot the outside tread was much more worn than the inside so it is a problem.
What have others done? Are flats just not an option for me now? Or maybe I should get a special shoe and ditch my keens? I have done a few Google searches and can't really find anything on this but a lot of times I ask on forms and people point me in the right direction.
Thanx,
Stan
So, I have some Keen sandals I want to ride with on my tour in Latin America so shimming them isn't really an option. I was thinking if I got flats that have the replaceable bolts I could possible get longer bolts the same thread and connect a shim to them the same thickness on both sides of the peddle. I have a clip that goes around my toe, I like those, so my foot will always be in the same position other than when I want to ride without the toe and use the other side of the peddle. The bolts will still go above the ship to hold my shoe in place, if that makes sense.
Anyway, provided this works is it a wise thing to do? Will this progressively get worse if I don't fix it in my shoes? I couldn't actually check to see if I walked more on the outside of my right foot until I visited my parent's house and looked at a shoe I had in high school (luckily, in this instance, my parents never throw anything away) and sure enough on my right foot the outside tread was much more worn than the inside so it is a problem.
What have others done? Are flats just not an option for me now? Or maybe I should get a special shoe and ditch my keens? I have done a few Google searches and can't really find anything on this but a lot of times I ask on forms and people point me in the right direction.
Thanx,
Stan
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I don't understand what you're trying to do.
Are you compensating for different leg lengths?
Better done by using different crank lengths.
Are you adressing what skiers call "canting"?
(The roll angle of your foot)
Should be the same as when you're walking. Easiest addressed by a custom insole.
Are you compensating for different leg lengths?
Better done by using different crank lengths.
Are you adressing what skiers call "canting"?
(The roll angle of your foot)
Should be the same as when you're walking. Easiest addressed by a custom insole.
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Yeah, that is probably it, I heard some cyclists need to shim one side of their foot while riding because when they walk they put more weight on the outside of their foot, like the right side on their right foot. With clip-less shoes(or any shoes) this is fixed with shimmed soles. I want to shim the outside of the peddle, when I walk I walk on more of the outside of my foot. After the guy who fit my bike told me that I searched and sure enough that is probably the problem.
The problem with using a custom insole is I can't really use them with keen sandals, my preferred footwear in warm conditions. If I need to I'll go that rout, getting a different shoe, but if the toe clip on the front of my peddle holds my foot in the same position couldn't I shim my peddle and achieve the same affect?
The pedals I have right now have 'fixed' nubs to keep my foot from sliding around the pedals, not the ones that have the replaceable bolts. So I ordered some ones with replaceable bolts.
Basically it causes pain that lasts for a few nights, I have to elevate my right let when I sleep on my side because it is so sore.

That is what I think I have except I need to shim the opposite way I think. It doesn't cause knee pain, after the fit I don't experience knee pain at all, but my foot goes slightly to sleep and my upper leg, outside of leg close to the hip, gets sore. Or maybe I do need to shim this way, not sure. I'll have to email him and ask. He fits mainly for people that have clip-less shoes and that is a easy fix for those.
The problem with using a custom insole is I can't really use them with keen sandals, my preferred footwear in warm conditions. If I need to I'll go that rout, getting a different shoe, but if the toe clip on the front of my peddle holds my foot in the same position couldn't I shim my peddle and achieve the same affect?
The pedals I have right now have 'fixed' nubs to keep my foot from sliding around the pedals, not the ones that have the replaceable bolts. So I ordered some ones with replaceable bolts.
Basically it causes pain that lasts for a few nights, I have to elevate my right let when I sleep on my side because it is so sore.

That is what I think I have except I need to shim the opposite way I think. It doesn't cause knee pain, after the fit I don't experience knee pain at all, but my foot goes slightly to sleep and my upper leg, outside of leg close to the hip, gets sore. Or maybe I do need to shim this way, not sure. I'll have to email him and ask. He fits mainly for people that have clip-less shoes and that is a easy fix for those.
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Yeah, I was going to buy a peddle like this, one that has bolts through it for traction:

Make my shim and longer bolts and nuts to secure it. I was just wondering if this would fix my problem or if it would cause damage in the long run, my foot being the right angle on my bike but walking around it isn't at the right angle.
I also have toe clips on my peddles so my foot will always be in the same position when I'm riding.
I should have posted pictures before, my bad, I don't explain things very well.

Make my shim and longer bolts and nuts to secure it. I was just wondering if this would fix my problem or if it would cause damage in the long run, my foot being the right angle on my bike but walking around it isn't at the right angle.
I also have toe clips on my peddles so my foot will always be in the same position when I'm riding.
I should have posted pictures before, my bad, I don't explain things very well.
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So, start with that pedal shown. Just cut down or screw in the side that needs less. For the side that needs to raised, just thread some bolts onto those threaded pins. Seems like you might need some custom fitting. And be sure to dial it in( like a few rides) before your tour.
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