Hi, new member former lurker here.

I'm coming from an aluminum Specialized Allez 2007 double (compact) road bike with a heavily upgraded wheelset to a Surly Long Haul Trucker.

I have thousands of miles on the Specialized, and ~400 miles now on the LHT. All 'test' rides.

Medial (inner) knee pain below my right knee has been a nagging issue before I started using my touring bike, but it had gotten much worse under the load of the LHT, so I've decided to do a dive into these issues.

Two notes:
* my old wellgo drive side pedal, were my knee issues are, was damaged. These pedals are platform one side, clip on the other, essentially the clip is bolted to the square frame of the platform rather than on the spindle. The damage meant that the clip was moving around instead of being securely set on pedal. I've replaced these pedals and will not put them back on my Specialized from whence they came.

* My cleats were too far up according to the rule of thumb I've seen - 5mm behind the axis created by the balls of the feet. So now the cleat is moved back.. a dramatic 7mm shift.

And now finally / tl;dr

Side angle of me on the trainer post cleat adjustment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GooP6rXYmHg

Rear angle of me on the trainer post cleat adjustment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3HTzq_TpdM

Please let me know if you notice anything!

Saddle height feels fine, but maybe I'm rocking too much?

Also, 30 y/o, M, 6' 2", 186lbs if that helps.

Hmmmm. IDK...FWIW... yes, it does seem as if you are rocking a bit much. Have you tried lowering the saddle and see how that looks? A bigger observation is that... to me anyway, it looks as if your bars are way too high. You should be a lot more scrunched in the drops than you are. Builds character, efficiency too. FWIW.

H

Edit: yes, even for touring.

I'm 6'2" and like flat part of my hoods 6-7 cm lower than the saddle and the sit-bone area of the saddle 295mm behind the BB. I'm wondering if you can get adequate setback with that combination of saddle/post. Perhaps your bars are so high because your saddle is too far forward. I think your seatpost might be about 1 cm too high. Maybe your too-high seatpost is pulling apart your knee joints or perhaps your right leg is a little shorter. I think your cleats should be about 5mm behind the balls of your feet. Those Journey racks are great because of that bottom parallel rail for the lower pannier hook which allows adjustment of the bags away from your heels.

I actually think his fore-aft position is about right. That's my point in the other post. For us normal height people (I'm 5'10") we are using the same seats and seat posts that allow 6' competitive cyclists to achieve proper position! I've gone to a zero offset post and my saddle near the limit of its forward travel to acheive pretty much the same fore-aft as the o.p. has in his video. My bars are a lot lower than his. I can stay in the drops for as long as necessary in headwind situations. You can't mash big gears at 60 rpm very effectively sitting that far forward. It is a position that favors 90 rpm spinning of relatively low gears. I do it because I am 55 and don't have thighs that are 33" around... each. The o.p. (and maybe you) should do it because its better for the knees. But you are correct, a too high saddle can cause knee pain... so can a too low one. The o.p. should have told us what his inseam was. I mean... why be shy... he's shown us everything else... lol.

H