I can't understand why someone would quote the price as 10k in a major magazine article, if the price was not 10k.

I would assume the price is 10K, and it will go down due to lack of demand. A 3k for a frameset is not much of an improvement.

Thanks,
Yan

I fail to see relevance. The utility of this bike and of some other appears to depend on the lack of fenders. Incidentally never in my life I saw $10 fenders good for much. Oh, yeah, and I could cut up a discarded Coke bottle and have a fender for $0 and not wait for the shipping. Oh, yes, and I could design some other provisions on the bike to allow for folding with a decent fender. Well, if I need to design much I will either not go to the market at all or go for another offering - not this one.

I don't understand that the folks put a cheapo e bike conversion on this otherwise gorgeous bike and than ask for this outrageous price. I also don't see the batteries on the bike, maybe my old eyes are going away, lol. In this configuration it should cost less than half. 5 grand is still a big chunk of money. :-)
Which would get you a Tern Bosch AND a Tern E-Link.

that $10K to offset the cost of jigs and machinery wouldn't make sense to pass the cost to the first buyer. That should be the setup costs and then they should be pricing them accordingly depending on how many you project to sell. If all manufacturers did this on the first purchase of anything most companies would go bankrupt cause no one would buy several thousand for a thingamabob.

and as others said here if it really wasn't $10k they wouldn't have said it on a magazine. this is right now a sub $1000 electric motor kit on a $9000 folding frame.

Let's try this again. Does anyone have reliable information on the expected retail price range for the non-electric Burke 20?

-HANK RYAN-
Norman, Oklahoma USA

I was guessing that the Burke doesn't have a solid production cost yet when the reporter/journalist asked.
And the conversation probably went something like

" ... so if I were to walk out of the show now with this setup here, what would it cost me NOW to do that ?"

With which a probable reply being:
".. I don't have a solid production cost for it, but IF I were to let you have it now, it would cost US$10k " .

Which the reporter/journalist just assumed that it was the production/MSRP price.

That's my longshot guess, but such things have happened before where reporters/journalists who have no direct experience in certain aspects misquote/misunderstand stuff which they are reporting on.

And I iterate again, that's my best guess based on what I understand of how things work in the bike manufacturing industry.

That does make a lot more sense. They wouldn't be too smart to price themselves out of the market straight out of the gate. But I guess time will tell. Interesting though, that there hasn't been a retort from the makers though.

Fenders like fenders, do the job, made from flexible plastic. I have them on my Hooligan 8 and another set is being shipped for my second Hoooligan 8.


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gotcha, I'm guessing all we can do now is wait and see when they bring these bikes into production and the prices they list on their actual website and not 2nd hand info from a reporter. Killing themselves right out of the gate would just be silly. Overall I'm "hoping" it'll only be 1-2K over what a Brompton normally sells for since both are locally produced in their own country/city so wages would be high. The main diff here would be the material expense (titanium) which is why I would think 1-2k more. Any higher and it's just going to get silly.

only other bar I can compare this to is the crazy full titanium japan made single speed panasonic traincle going for $2500USD
Panasonic TRAINCLE

I've been interviewed by many journalists, including Matt Phillips the author of the Burke Electric article. They normally always ask MSRP and publish it accordingly. There can be no misunderstanding.


Thanks,
Yan

Still not sure how this is relevant. The folding of the Burke bike and its rolling depend on the lack of a rear fender.

I think you're right that the quote is accurate, Yan. The article mentions that the manufacturer hopes to get the price down at some point, so he clearly told the author that $10k is the current MSRP.

Then it sucks. Thanks for pointing that fenders are on the the way of folding. Personally I'm interested in bikes with out fenders, disc brakes, and at least 8 speed derailleur options.

No news yet about Burke 20" into production?

One more time:

Does anyone have reliable information on the expected retail price range for the non-electric Burke 20?

On one of their YouTube videos, someone commented that they went out of business two months earlier to their post on Feb 2017. But that's just a comment.

But then I tried to call Seattle Cycles phone number right off their website (206) 434-2359 and it went straight to voicemail for an Asian person named "mut yap". Doesn't seem promising.

Dr. Yap is the designer/owner. I don't think that Seattle Cycles has an office or staff. Hence the likelihood of a bankruptcy is very low.

Thanks
Yan

So the mut yap makes it total sense. Good to hear.

I think it's Michael Yap.

Thanks,
Yan

Hi, hi! Is anybody out there?

Looks like they've made progress, prices are now quoted. As a new member the site won't like me provide the URL directly . But look for (think world wide web dot )
seattle-cycles.com/shop

Thanks for the good news.
Anybody thinks to buy one with those prices?

I start by asking myself whether I would want one if it were given for free and I cannot detect a budge

If I could afford, why not? Unfortunately, it's a few thousand above my budget. Like... Ever so slighty. About $5000 too much.

American made titanium frame with top line components, the price seems to be right. A lot more than I would ever spend on a folding bike but I am sure there are people who want the best and do. I wish them well.