Chain guards needed?
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Chain guards needed?
I am thinking about going to a 52T chain ring from a 48T ring. Are the chain guards a good idea? The current one has duals.
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This depends on a person. Some people ride only in fair weather in shorts and find them redundant. Others always carry a strap to put around the leg of their pants. Others ride in all kinds of weather and circumstances and will get their clothes stained without a guard. I belong to the last group and have a chainguard on every bike. I also put a chainguard on any bike I outfit for somebody as I fear that they may get put off from biking if they get stained. Obviously the chainguards come in different forms. Some are minimal but effective enough. Other are bulky.
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No chainguard here, but I use wax instead of greasy lube and I ride in narrow legged pants. No problems =). Unnecessary extra weight on the bike.
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Huh. I thought the purpose of a chain guard was to keep the chain from falling off when you don't have a front derailleur to keep it on track.
If it's mainly to keep the pants clean, then I can deal with adding a single.
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If it's mainly to keep the pants clean, then I can deal with adding a single.
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or the big round plastic ring bolted to the right of chainring/s?
Yeah either is mostly cosmetic. Chain ring guard might also reduce impact of obstacle on chain.
i once thought the chainring guard would also guide the chain back if front derailleur overshot, but nope my chain just jammed between guard & chainring. Ok so the chain didn't fall off onto the pedal crank but the driveline was still jammed.
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Chains will still jump off even with a chainring protector. There ARE devices which keep them from doing that, though. Chain guides.
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Linberl, I'm talking about the plastic (sometimes aluminum) ring alongside the gear. My two folders have them on both sides of the gear.
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A dork disk is in the rear wheel, behind the cogset. A chain guard is attached the the chainring, between the crank arm and chainring. Occasionally there's 2 chain guards, and they do act as a chain guide. The chain guard is mostly a pant protector imo.
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ive seen some kiddy bikes with 1X7 Shimano, the single chain ring has plastic guard on both sides & the chain runs in the channel between them
im still not decided whether they're there to guard/guide the chain or more to protect the kiddy shin away from the sharp spikey chainring
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those bikes are single chainring?
ive seen some kiddy bikes with 1X7 Shimano, the single chain ring has plastic guard on both sides & the chain runs in the channel between them
im still not decided whether they're there to guard/guide the chain or more to protect the kiddy shin away from the sharp spikey chainring

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When you shift in the rear, a wave propagates on the chain up to the chainring that can cause a chain drop when the chainring is rotating. A front derailleur cage limits the lateral movement of the chain and so does a chainguard attached in a close vicinity of the chain. This is also the purpose of the chain guide on Bike Friday.
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I have a chain minder/jump stop on the inside, disc chain/ trouser guard on the outside..
So it stays on Fine..
I have a chain minder/jump stop on the inside, disc chain/ trouser guard on the outside..
So it stays on Fine.. now, Chain tensioner & IGH on back ,
spinning the crank backwards to oil the chain was when it came off
don't actually, fold the bike that often..
Adding, no 19, below, shows a bike where the chain is tensioned at the dropout,
rather than spring wound 2 pulley tensioner..
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So it stays on Fine..
I have a chain minder/jump stop on the inside, disc chain/ trouser guard on the outside..
So it stays on Fine.. now, Chain tensioner & IGH on back ,
spinning the crank backwards to oil the chain was when it came off
don't actually, fold the bike that often..
Adding, no 19, below, shows a bike where the chain is tensioned at the dropout,
rather than spring wound 2 pulley tensioner..
...
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If the chain derails/jumps off when pedaling backwards, isn't that an indicator of a chain line misalignment? I know that a stray bent tooth can also cause the chain to jump, but that is usually indicated by a consistent skip at one point along the chain wheel's rotation.
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good generally
It was no issue going forward , but due to the rear fold hinge location, the bike needs chain tensioner .
It Takes up the slack when rear wheel folded , but still can come off in front Then,
so I made the modest change...
the one on the back, to keep the chain on the cog was also a clever DIY solution..
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It Takes up the slack when rear wheel folded , but still can come off in front Then,
so I made the modest change...
the one on the back, to keep the chain on the cog was also a clever DIY solution..
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The chainring guard keeps pants from getting dirty and torn by rubbing against the chainring and chain. I prefer to just use a velcro strap around my pant leg if I'm riding somewhere in plain clothes. I think the strap is more reliable, but possibly less convenient. It's a good solution for someone who rides in cycling kit most of the time, but uses street clothes occasionally.
A chainring guard is more useful for someone who rides in street clothes most of the time and doesn't want to bother with a strap. But it doesn't absolve you of the need for keeping your chainring, chain, and the chain guard clean -- your pants can still get grimy riding even with a guard in place. ...so you might just end up using a strap anyway.
A chainring guard is more useful for someone who rides in street clothes most of the time and doesn't want to bother with a strap. But it doesn't absolve you of the need for keeping your chainring, chain, and the chain guard clean -- your pants can still get grimy riding even with a guard in place. ...so you might just end up using a strap anyway.
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Getting cooler, so I put on some long pants and went biking. This particular bike has dual guards. Caught my pants in the chain anyway. Ha ha.
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Get some good reflective straps and ditch the guard. I have a friend who had a pretty bad accident when his pants caught the chain, he went down in traffic. If my pants aren't narrow, I wear straps; looking dorky is better than being broken.
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Look, the Leg Shield is what I use, along with reflective ankle straps. The Leg Shield provides the most protection, but it also makes you lower leg a bit hot - plus you'll look like a kickboxer! LoL!
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