aluminum frame, 20" wheels, disk brakes 1x drivetrain

https://bikesonline.com/products/2024-polygon-urbano-5-folding-disc-bike?variant=49874211209508








Your unicorn Duragrouch ?

It's a beautiful folder. If I didn't already own the Oyama CX16D I'd have purchased this instead. I didn't see this until awhile after. Apparently it gets fantastic reviews in the UK. And that's coming from Brompton owners.

Both the Urbano 5 & 3 are offered at fair prices as well.

Don't take this the wrong way or get descombubulated, but $650 for a Polygon Urbano 5 (which sells retail here for $355) with that level of components is highway robbery. That price, $650, is more than what I spent on this rig which has not a single bum or low rent part on it.



You could buy it for $355 and strip it to use as a canvas for a rebuild (as I did with my Thrill Volare minivelo), keeping only the frame, BB, headset, crank arms, seatpost and handle bar. I've seen this bike in the flesh in my neighborhood Rodalink brick & mortar bike store, and those are the only components, imo, worth salvaging and not putting up on re-sale block. The wheels (the same ones that came with the Thrill Volare) are particularly bad and heavy.

But why bother using it as a canvas for improvement and rebuild when you can simply buy an FnHon frame set for less than half the price. Here, enthusiasts like the ones who populate this channel simply don't buy complete bi-folds anymore. That ship sailed years ago.

Now, I understand that most of you are in the Homeland. However, one channel guru has pronounced that he shops confidently and often from Uncle Ali so there's little reason to buy these poor value complete bikes when you, like this great guru, can get frames and parts sourced directly from Asia reliably and cheaply. Unless, of course, it's not as easy, reliable or cheap as he purports it to be. Or you don't have the skills and tools, or the inclination to build the bike yourself, and are happy to pay more for less. That's for you to determine. Happy shopping...

Oh, one more thing. This rig does check several but not all of DG's boxes. Missing from his requirements are 4130 chromoly and FD hanger.

I love the veiled insults this bigot loves to spew...

Alright. Across three different threads, you've now called me a bigot, racist, xenophobe, troll and doosh. Good job. 👏🏼

Nevertheless, in no instance have you bothered to address and engage with the issues raised. Not that it's surprising or uncharacteristic, for you are firmly, perhaps even the dean, among that group of channel regulars that I had squarely in mind in my last exchange with Schwinnsta who plainly add nothing of substance or novelty to the channel. Ad-hominem, sophomoric memes, emojis galore but sadly, zero substance.

On to the issues. The channel would benefit to know whether AliExpress is as good as you make it out to be, thereby undercutting, partially or in whole, the need to buy relatively overpriced and under-specced bikes like a Polygon Urbano 5 for $650 locally. Or, alternatively, whether you've been over-zealously overselling Ali, perhaps even trying to pull the wool over the forum eyes. Maybe, just maybe, in your feverish shopping frenzy for electronics on Ali to which you've admitted to us here, you've lost some perspective in the heat of the limited promotion, blow-out sale and discount offer? Losing one's mind while shopping is a thing, a real thing, you know. So, which one is it? Is Ali a viable option, yes or no? Some people may want to know. I know I do.

The issues, bro. The issues.

You be you and don’t criticize everybody else. Find yourself a different thread.

The competition continues to improve. It's getting to be a buyer's market.

How right you are. I'm still grooving on 4130 steel for these higher-stressed frames, and I still really like 2X gearing, but then, I also like manual transmissions, a front shift is not a chore for me. However if I was doing a lot of mountain riding, wanting fast and easy shifts uphill, I gotta admit that a 1X might be better. But in terms of total range, look at what I saw recently, not sure if this is a misprint, from Wheeltop's website (I looked because I'd never heard of them, and their hydro brakes are spec'ed on the base Helix folder):




26 to 50-53 2X in front? Yowza, if true.

Saw Polygon Urbano, and had to read, as it's on my list of possible new bikes. But, they seem to be unavailable, and Polygon themselves are only taking pre- orders. I too would rather have a steel frame for the improved fatigue life, but aside from the almighty B , no such thing.
My requirements : Disc or drum brakes, non-deraiileur, 406 or 349 tyres, fenders, rear rack, lights.
Tern Verge S8i may be the one, yet the Polygon has phenomenal reviews for durability and rideability.

Some things are better purchased aftermarket. Every OEM rear rack I have seen on 406 folders is low and centered over the rear axle, and that won't allow heel clearance with any decent sized panniers. Racks for these need to hold the panniers with front edge even with the rear axle and the remaining pannier behind that. This is not unstable at all. These types of rear racks are more rare, but still available. If you want to use full size panniers and not drag them on curbs when riding in the street close to them, you want a rack height designed for large wheel bikes, that keeps the panniers high enough. They probably will not come with front stays that are long enough to reach the low seatstays on a folder, but many LBSs have extra long ones that will do.

No intent to run large panniers. The rack holds the bike in storage on a Brompton,, and a rack trunk otherwise, in lieu of the forward luggage block. The Burley Travoy works well enough for Walmart runs where the mother ship can't stop itself.

Ah, that's a good setup.

Me, I live in a 3rd floor walkup rented room, and any kind of trailer would be impossible to carry down and up with the bike, and theft is rampant around here, I can't bring down or up one and leave it while I fetch the other. I rode a road race bike for many years, but have been riding a folder with full panniers as a townie for 10+ years now, and for living 99.9% on a bike, I sure need that utility.

Man I sure wish this place had an elevator. A bike with Travoy hooked up could probably fit, jacknifed. A bike, even a short one, with my old B.O.B. trailer, no. LWB recumbent with underseat steering and a B.O.B., big NO, and that's what I used to drag up and down the front steps of my apartment in the later '90s, just didn't work.