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Old 09-08-22, 11:54 AM
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I notice that the 'Swing arm' on this Birdy I have does not swing freely — when I unfold the front wheel, I have to use my hand to pull it into position. It is a little stiff. Is this normal? Thanks.
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Old 09-08-22, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stephenmcateer View Post
I notice that the 'Swing arm' on this Birdy I have does not swing freely ó when I unfold the front wheel, I have to use my hand to pull it into position. It is a little stiff. Is this normal? Thanks.
Yes, itís normal. Same
on my new Birdy.
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Old 09-08-22, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CEBEP View Post
Yes, itís normal. Same
on my new Birdy.
Thanks CEBEP. One less thing to fix.
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Old 09-10-22, 12:05 AM
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I didnít like Birdyís Minoura kickstand which it came with from the beginning. The kickstand seems to be far to the left when opened and bike was leaning too much to my taste. Now it got worst and bike barely stands. Even slight touch by a finger will drop it. This is probably because I changed my tires to Big Apples which made the bike taller. I wander if itís possible to extend itís length?

Also can someone recommend solid alternative? I know there are not many choices.

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Old 09-10-22, 01:59 PM
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The stem clamp on my Birdy is not tight enough, so that the stem can move a small amount back and forward. [The movement is maybe 3-4 mm at the handlebar.]

The user guide I have here says that if the clamp needs adjustment, I have to take it to a dealer.

Does anyone know if I can do it myself?

Also, there are 2 small Allen screws in the clamp — one of them is quite a lot higher than the other one. Is this normal? [See pic].

Thanks for any info.


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Old 09-13-22, 02:39 AM
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Birdy Front Spring Lock Set

Is there anyone know where to buy the part and can ship it to Germany or the other name of the part? Please help me. I am troubled with finding the part. I can't post link or image at the moment.
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Old 09-13-22, 02:52 AM
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Is there anyone know where to buy the part and can ship it to Germany or the other name of the part? Please help me. I am troubled with finding the part. I can't post link or image at the moment.
If your Birdy is R&M you can contact them directly www.r-m.de or better yet one of their dealers in Germany. If itís an Asian model made by Pacific Cycle you can contact them directly too at: https://www.pacific-cycle.com/contact-us
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Old 09-13-22, 03:06 AM
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Thanks. I have a pretty old one even before 2000. The other sources online reported that the rm or dealers will not answer because the bike is not supported anymore.
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Old 09-13-22, 03:17 AM
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Thanks. I have a pretty old one even before 2000. The other sources online reported that the rm or dealers will not answer because the bike is not supported anymore.
Normally manufacturer in EU is supposed to carry spare parts for 10 years after the product is discontinued. Assuming youíre in Germany too I think it will be easy for you to talk to R&M. If not you can check with Pacific Cycles too, they reply emails very fast.

You can also check with Mighty Velo in Singapore.

https://www.mightyvelo.com/contact-us/

They might be able to help or suggest and they also ship internationally.
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Old 09-13-22, 03:34 AM
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Normally manufacturer in EU is supposed to carry spare parts for 10 years after the product is discontinued.
As far as I know, there is no such obligation in the EU !?
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As far as I know, there is no such obligation in the EU !?
Right to Repair. Not sure if itís a law or just a regulation. But this is what I heard exists. Different countries may have different local laws and regulations about the same.
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Old 09-13-22, 03:27 PM
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The link you give is only applicable to some electronic products, not to bikes )or any other product !

In the past, some manufacturers like Philips had spare parts for all there products.

But this cost a lot of money and has a major impact on the price of the product.

Philips eventually abandoned this to remain competitive against Japanese and Chinese brands that didn't had any spare parts for their products.
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Originally Posted by Jipe View Post
The link you give is only applicable to some electronic products, not to bikes )or any other product !

In the past, some manufacturers like Philips had spare parts for all there products.

But this cost a lot of money and has a major impact on the price of the product.

Philips eventually abandoned this to remain competitive against Japanese and Chinese brands that didn't had any spare parts for their products.
Not electronics but household (white goods) goods,
also as far as I know applies to cars manufacturing but not sure to what extend. So it may apply to some extend to bicycles manufacturing too, I donít know what are local laws in Germany.

Here in Turkey itís 5 years for PCs and cell phones and 10 years for TVs and white goods.

Since bicycles are used for much longer than that I assume R&M or Asian manufacturer may still carry unique parts for discontinued models. At least they should be in my opinion.
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Old 09-14-22, 03:17 AM
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There is no legal obligation to have spare parts for cars, its only a good practice of car manufacturers and its usually 7 years.

I wonder how Turkey can enforce to have spare parts for cell phones during 5 years as most Chinese manufacturers do not have them !
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Originally Posted by Jipe View Post
There is no legal obligation to have spare parts for cars, its only a good practice of car manufacturers and its usually 7 years.

I wonder how Turkey can enforce to have spare parts for cell phones during 5 years as most Chinese manufacturers do not have them !
If cell phone supplier can not fix the broken phone due to the lack of spare parts the owner can sue the distributor for compensation. Companies selling products in Turkey must comply with such regulations, or they donít sell. Consumer laws and regulations are different in different countries. In Turkey all sold products must have minimum 2 yearís warranty. Except for goods like perfumes, food etc. In US, as far as I know itís not the case, manufacturer is free to offer the warranty they like, could be 1 year or 1 month. How countries enforce such regulations is a different topic.

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Old 09-14-22, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CEBEP View Post
If cell phone supplier can not fix the broken phone due to the lack of spare parts the owner can sue the distributor for compensation. Companies selling products in Turkey mist comply with such regulations, or they donít sell. Consumer laws and regulations are different in different countries. In Turkey all sold products must have minimum 2 yearís warranty. Except for goods like perfumes, food etc. In US itís not the case, manufacturer is free to offer the warranty they like, could be 1 year of 1 month. How countries enforce such regulations is a different topic.
In the whole EU, its also two years warranty.

But it doesn't mean that spare parts must be available, the seller can also replace the product by a new one.

For smartphones, 5 years is an eternity, for most Android smartphones, there are even no SW upgrade available after that time !
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Originally Posted by Jipe View Post
In the whole EU, its also two years warranty.

But it doesn't mean that spare parts must be available, the seller can also replace the product by a new one.

For smartphones, 5 years is an eternity, for most Android smartphones, there are even no SW upgrade available after that time !
Lack of firmware updates doesít mean the phone canít be used. 5 years will give 3 extra years of serviceability after 2 years of warranty. If itís left to distributors they will end services life of a smartphone immodestly after warranty period which will force the owner to replace it. These regulations are meant to protect consumers. I canít understand what is surprising you here.
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Old 09-14-22, 04:31 AM
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I am not opposed to it, I just say that in practice, its not like that and that there are no spare parts available for many products.

If the manufacturer has no spare parts, the reseller cannot provide any spare parts even if some countries have put in place some laws enforcing to have spare parts.
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Old 09-14-22, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jipe View Post
I am not opposed to it, I just say that in practice, its not like that and that there are no spare parts available for many products.

If the manufacturer has no spare parts, the reseller cannot provide any spare parts even if some countries have put in place some laws enforcing to have spare parts.
Then they donít distribute. Itís specifically true for white goods which obviously have much longer life time than cellular phones. Some manufacturers offer 7 years extended warranty. My fridge have recently malfunctioned. Itís local brand. Service engineer said itís 2 years warranty ended in 2017 yet he had nonissues replacing the screen and controller board. Itís how things are supposed to be. Equipment manufacturers earn more from service and spare parts sale then they do from selling the equipment. Itís in their interest to keep service available for as long as they can.
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Old 09-26-22, 10:37 AM
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After installing Big Apples my kickstand which was barely holding the bike gave up. It was almost unable to hold the bike so I had to keep it between my legs when I stopped. Could be the case that my kickstand had an issue, donno.

Was looking for different solutions and decided to go with Pacific Cycle model. Since they are big producers of Birdy bicycles I though they know what they are doing.

Perfect fit, acceptable price and looks good. Would definitely recommend to anyone looking for alternative kickstand.




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Old 09-27-22, 01:23 AM
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After installing Big Apples my kickstand which was barely holding the bike gave up. It was almost unable to hold the bike so I had to keep it between my legs when I stopped. Could be the case that my kickstand had an issue, donno.
Fatter tyres need a longer kickstand as the bike is raised by the increase in the tyre size. A few mm difference in tyre size can usually be accommodated by accepting a different angle of tilt. Many kickstands have adjustable lengths but this adds weight and cost.

I'm thinking of changing from Big Apples to the Marathon Racers so I'm likely to encounter this kickstand problem, which I hadn't thought about. I need to inspect the kickstand.
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Old 09-27-22, 01:30 AM
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Fatter tyres need a longer kickstand as the bike is raised by the increase in the tyre size. A few mm difference in tyre size can usually be accommodated by accepting a different angle of tilt. Many kickstands have adjustable lengths but this adds weight and cost.

I'm thinking of changing from Big Apples to the Marathon Racers so I'm likely to encounter this kickstand problem, which I hadn't thought about. I need to inspect the kickstand.
Kickstands designed for Birdy bicycles have two versions, 18í and 20í. Some of them (Ridea) have interchangeable tips. I bough this Pacific cycle kickstand from Mighty Velo and before buying it specifically asked if I should go with this or a 20í version assuming Inhave taller big apples. Both replied that 18í will do fine as they designed it to accommodate both standard and big apples on Birdyís they sell. Iím glad I did. Perfect fit.
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Old 10-26-22, 01:02 AM
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Hi all, i'm a new Birdy bike owner. It's my very first foldie so please pardon me if my question sound silly.
I would like to know if the Birdy is still foldable after the mudguards are installed as I am interested to get one set for mine.
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Old 10-26-22, 01:26 AM
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Hi all, i'm a new Birdy bike owner. It's my very first foldie so please pardon me if my question sound silly.
I would like to know if the Birdy is still foldable after the mudguards are installed as I am interested to get one set for mine.
Hello and welcome to the forum. It does fold with stock mudguards just fine, do you plan to add originals or aftermarket?
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Old 10-26-22, 01:46 AM
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Hello and welcome to the forum. It does fold with stock mudguards just fine, do you plan to add originals or aftermarket?
Thank you for the reply. I think I will go for the original mudguards as I couldn't find any alternatives in the aftermarket. For a mudguard, the price of the original does seem to be on the high side.

Perhaps you are aware and can recommend alternatives that works just as well as the original?
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