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#1054



charming bikes but, i think the 349mm wheel size is more optimal for a compact mini. i've had this idea for quite awhile for a 349mm sprinter style bike. i'm talking to a frame builder about having this fabricated. (batik graphic wrap optional)
#1055
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Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,521
Likes: 444
From: Henrico, VA
Bikes: Origami Gazelle, Origami Crane 8, Origami Cricket 7
You have to include the graphic wrap, it makes the whole package!
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#1056
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Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 2,244
Likes: 19
From: Bali
Bikes: In service - FSIR Spin 3.0, Bannard Sunny minivelo, Dahon Dash Altena folder. Several others in construction or temporarily decommissioned.
make sure it is surakarta batik. yogya's is too staid, and pekalongan's and cirebon's too garish.
#1057
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Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 628
Likes: 7
From: Bangkok: hottest average temperature :(
Bikes: *1998 GT Forte Ti 700c, Totem KDS-D 26" fatbike, BirdyGT 18", Brompton M2LX 16"
I love those Beat Moons; never seen them before.
I found this 16" bike, WCI Speeder.
Not sure if it is a kids bike or if they are still sold since I have never seen one at a store or bicycle show. Proportions look like an adult can ride it.

**********?? ???? speeder **********??? ********************? - ThaiMTB.com - **********??
I found this 16" bike, WCI Speeder.
Not sure if it is a kids bike or if they are still sold since I have never seen one at a store or bicycle show. Proportions look like an adult can ride it.

**********?? ???? speeder **********??? ********************? - ThaiMTB.com - **********??
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#1058
#1059
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Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 628
Likes: 7
From: Bangkok: hottest average temperature :(
Bikes: *1998 GT Forte Ti 700c, Totem KDS-D 26" fatbike, BirdyGT 18", Brompton M2LX 16"
I think some enterprising people must take all the old bikes from Japan and dump them in Thailand because I see many old and weird ones for sale on Kaidee.com and Thaimtb.com
If you search for wheel size and keywords like: mini, 12, 16, 20, folding... all sorts of interesting folders and minivelos result.
I don't feel like hosting photos so here are some recent links.
DiBlasi 16 folder stainless
https://www.kaidee.com/product-115921115
This is a Panasonic Traincle Surf which is much stranger than the regular Traincle; not sure if a shock is missing.
https://www.kaidee.com/product-116530081
Some illogical 16/20" bikes.
https://www.kaidee.com/product-117284624
https://www.kaidee.com/product-114210022
National Caminito
https://www.kaidee.com/product-117104281
National 12"
https://www.kaidee.com/product-116553391
Some goofy 12" bikes
Https://www.kaidee.com/product-115177377
Https://www.kaidee.com/product-117169662
If you search for wheel size and keywords like: mini, 12, 16, 20, folding... all sorts of interesting folders and minivelos result.
I don't feel like hosting photos so here are some recent links.
DiBlasi 16 folder stainless
https://www.kaidee.com/product-115921115
This is a Panasonic Traincle Surf which is much stranger than the regular Traincle; not sure if a shock is missing.
https://www.kaidee.com/product-116530081
Some illogical 16/20" bikes.
https://www.kaidee.com/product-117284624
https://www.kaidee.com/product-114210022
National Caminito
https://www.kaidee.com/product-117104281
National 12"
https://www.kaidee.com/product-116553391
Some goofy 12" bikes
Https://www.kaidee.com/product-115177377
Https://www.kaidee.com/product-117169662
#1060
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Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 546
Likes: 200
From: Baltimore, MD
Bikes: Vilano Urbana, DownTube FS9, Montaque paratrooper, Nano mini-velo, Motobecane CX, Raleigh 20, MIFA folder, ROG Pony, Iverson Grand Touring folder, Exclusiv German folder
ttakata73 - Them is some cool bikes. Especially like the design of https://www.kaidee.com/product-117284624. Thank you for sharing
#1061
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Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 367
Likes: 11
From: Newcastle upon Tyne
Bikes: Xootr swift, Moulton Speed, Moulton Major.
The UK are finally getting these in shops in the next couple of weeks, very smart for £450 Todays Cyclist: Bobbin Metric 2016
#1062
Palmer

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,153
Likes: 2,263
From: Parts Unknown
Bikes: Mike Melton custom, Alex Moulton AM, Dahon Curl
bike.gang.uk posted about this bike a while back, but the more I think about it, the more it becomes a 'bike we like'.
The Caracle 20 from Japan:

Unfurled, it could be mistaken for a garden variety 20" Dahon:

None of the individual elements seem new: the front of a Dahon Ciao, the back of an Oyama Space Genie, the 'brace against seat post' of the Jifo.
The Caracle 20 from Japan:
Unfurled, it could be mistaken for a garden variety 20" Dahon:
None of the individual elements seem new: the front of a Dahon Ciao, the back of an Oyama Space Genie, the 'brace against seat post' of the Jifo.
Last edited by tcs; 05-27-16 at 07:08 AM.
#1063
Palmer

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,153
Likes: 2,263
From: Parts Unknown
Bikes: Mike Melton custom, Alex Moulton AM, Dahon Curl
The ingenious combination of these design elements and some clever geometry yields quite a remarkable bike.
Folded, the Caracle with its 20" wheels is small:

How small? It will fit into a 28" suitcase w/o disassembly:

It also folds with not only its driveline to the inside, but also its handlebars, protecting those expensive combined brake/index shift levers, and, I suppose, your GPS computer and Spurcycle bell.
Kudos to the unknown designer(s)!
Folded, the Caracle with its 20" wheels is small:
How small? It will fit into a 28" suitcase w/o disassembly:
It also folds with not only its driveline to the inside, but also its handlebars, protecting those expensive combined brake/index shift levers, and, I suppose, your GPS computer and Spurcycle bell.
Kudos to the unknown designer(s)!
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#1064
Palmer

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,153
Likes: 2,263
From: Parts Unknown
Bikes: Mike Melton custom, Alex Moulton AM, Dahon Curl
The fellow @ Loopwheels is up in full production. You can buy just the 20" wheels as an upgrade or a turnkey Dahon bike:

The hubs are Sturmey-Archer X-RDC and X-FD drums.
Don't sell the steak, sell the sizzle:
https://youtu.be/P5JPB_kKAg8
It seems like this is the sort of thing ThorUSA would be the US distributor of.
The hubs are Sturmey-Archer X-RDC and X-FD drums.
Don't sell the steak, sell the sizzle:
https://youtu.be/P5JPB_kKAg8
It seems like this is the sort of thing ThorUSA would be the US distributor of.
#1065
Palmer

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,153
Likes: 2,263
From: Parts Unknown
Bikes: Mike Melton custom, Alex Moulton AM, Dahon Curl
So what do you do to attract the attention of that cute girl at your local South Korean Strida club?

Buy the 8.5kg carbon fiber model, of course!
Buy the 8.5kg carbon fiber model, of course!
#1066
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Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,835
Likes: 1,213
From: Somewhere in New York, NY
Bikes: 9+,...
The fellow @ Loopwheels is up in full production. You can buy just the 20" wheels as an upgrade or a turnkey Dahon bike:

The hubs are Sturmey-Archer X-RDC and X-FD drums.
Don't sell the steak, sell the sizzle:
https://youtu.be/P5JPB_kKAg8
It seems like this is the sort of thing ThorUSA would be the US distributor of.
The hubs are Sturmey-Archer X-RDC and X-FD drums.
Don't sell the steak, sell the sizzle:
https://youtu.be/P5JPB_kKAg8
It seems like this is the sort of thing ThorUSA would be the US distributor of.

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#1067
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Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 628
Likes: 7
From: Bangkok: hottest average temperature :(
Bikes: *1998 GT Forte Ti 700c, Totem KDS-D 26" fatbike, BirdyGT 18", Brompton M2LX 16"
The carbon Strida looks cool but is a letdown.
A Strida 5 comes in at 10kg and it has a rear rack.
So this carbon frame and wheels only saves 1.5kg; I expected more.
Since it uses a non standard crankset it would be hard to take off any more weight.
STRiDA C1 | STRiDA
I watched some videos on the Caracle and it is impressive.
It seems to roll easily assuming the magnet is strong enough over rough terrain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbQ6zMtmBOY
This 16" version seems even better for travel although more cumbersome to transform.
CARACLE cary [under development] | CARACLE -the innovative folding bike-
A Strida 5 comes in at 10kg and it has a rear rack.
So this carbon frame and wheels only saves 1.5kg; I expected more.
Since it uses a non standard crankset it would be hard to take off any more weight.
STRiDA C1 | STRiDA
I watched some videos on the Caracle and it is impressive.
It seems to roll easily assuming the magnet is strong enough over rough terrain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbQ6zMtmBOY
This 16" version seems even better for travel although more cumbersome to transform.
CARACLE cary [under development] | CARACLE -the innovative folding bike-
#1068
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Joined: May 2015
Posts: 34
Likes: 5
From: Lethbridge, Alberta
Bikes: Breezer Zag8
It also folds with not only its driveline to the inside, but also its handlebars, protecting those expensive combined brake/index shift levers, and, I suppose, your GPS computer and Spurcycle bell.
That US$49.99 bell looks awfully similar to the US$8 bell I got off eBay...
#1069
Palmer

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,153
Likes: 2,263
From: Parts Unknown
Bikes: Mike Melton custom, Alex Moulton AM, Dahon Curl
That US$49.99 bell looks awfully similar to the US$8 bell I got off eBay...
#1072
thanks, bhkyte. hope you're doing well.
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#1073
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Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 628
Likes: 7
From: Bangkok: hottest average temperature :(
Bikes: *1998 GT Forte Ti 700c, Totem KDS-D 26" fatbike, BirdyGT 18", Brompton M2LX 16"
As cool as this bike looks; this designer knows nothing about bikes.
I assume it was done by a student that ran out of time to really think if it could work.
A drop bar road bike with ~8" front tire and 3" height clearance is my first concern.
I see no way for the front tire to actually turn.
The tire profile is so flat it can probably only lean 10-15 degrees.
You couldn't pedal through a turn or risk a pedal strike.
The massively wide, low profile, and small tires would be very slow rolling and warp the rim bead unless they are solid rubber.
A 22t chainring with such a small rear tire and short crankarms would have to spin ridiculously fast.
The rider's butt is above or even behind the rear tire's contact patch so I think it would wheelie and throw the rider off with an electric motor.
The rear fender would allow the rider to get sprayed.
You can only brake with your hands at the bottom of the drops and the lever would sever a finger off in a crash.
I know it's always easy to criticize any design; but this thing is dangerous in several ways.
I give it an A for rendering skills, B for cool factor, and an F- for feasibility.
I assume it was done by a student that ran out of time to really think if it could work.
A drop bar road bike with ~8" front tire and 3" height clearance is my first concern.
I see no way for the front tire to actually turn.
The tire profile is so flat it can probably only lean 10-15 degrees.
You couldn't pedal through a turn or risk a pedal strike.
The massively wide, low profile, and small tires would be very slow rolling and warp the rim bead unless they are solid rubber.
A 22t chainring with such a small rear tire and short crankarms would have to spin ridiculously fast.
The rider's butt is above or even behind the rear tire's contact patch so I think it would wheelie and throw the rider off with an electric motor.
The rear fender would allow the rider to get sprayed.
You can only brake with your hands at the bottom of the drops and the lever would sever a finger off in a crash.
I know it's always easy to criticize any design; but this thing is dangerous in several ways.
I give it an A for rendering skills, B for cool factor, and an F- for feasibility.
#1074
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Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
#1075
this stem is noteworthy: steering mast and stem in one.

with built-in computer. sweet.

quick-release button inside the latch mechanism is novel. however, i do find that dahonesque turnbuckle triggering and problematic. it gives me flashbacks, tbh.

the custom seatpost and tube are questionable. i wonder if the seattube can properly bind a standard 33.9mm post? IMO, the best designs are always the one's with the fewest and most universal parts with the highest durability to weight ratio.






