Technical issues
#251
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Joined: Oct 2008
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From: Huntington, WV
Hey, I'm trying to read this thread, but I cannot advance past page 308, no matter what, even if I post: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...05822&page=308
Can anyone help?
Can anyone help?
#252
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 15
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From: Huntington, WV
*BUMP* For help please...
I use Safari for OSX (all latest versions) and it does this. I loaded up Firefox just now and where Safari only let me go to thread 308 and not advance to 309, Firefox let me go to 309, but now it's stuck there - no link will allow me to advance to page 310.
I use Safari for OSX (all latest versions) and it does this. I loaded up Firefox just now and where Safari only let me go to thread 308 and not advance to 309, Firefox let me go to 309, but now it's stuck there - no link will allow me to advance to page 310.
#253
Member
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 26
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From: British Columbia, Canada
Bikes: 2007 Norco CCX xxl
Sloooooooooooooow
The Forum has been so slow for me this last week it is unusable. I check in periodically to see if it has improved, but no luck. It is the same at home and at work and on my laptop. Only thing I can think off in common is that they all get internet through Shaw.
Any advice? I miss my BF fix.
Any advice? I miss my BF fix.
#254
Out fishing with Annie on his lap, a cigar in one hand and a ginger ale in the other, watching the sunset.
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 16,049
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From: South Florida
Bikes: Techna Wheelchair and a Sun EZ 3 Recumbent Trike
We're still having issues in Western Canada? OK, thanks, will pass it along to the appropriate people.
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. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
#255
Out fishing with Annie on his lap, a cigar in one hand and a ginger ale in the other, watching the sunset.
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 16,049
Likes: 29
From: South Florida
Bikes: Techna Wheelchair and a Sun EZ 3 Recumbent Trike
*BUMP* For help please...
I use Safari for OSX (all latest versions) and it does this. I loaded up Firefox just now and where Safari only let me go to thread 308 and not advance to 309, Firefox let me go to 309, but now it's stuck there - no link will allow me to advance to page 310.
I use Safari for OSX (all latest versions) and it does this. I loaded up Firefox just now and where Safari only let me go to thread 308 and not advance to 309, Firefox let me go to 309, but now it's stuck there - no link will allow me to advance to page 310.
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. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
#256
Mastering the Art of Life

Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 53
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From: Grosse Pointe, MI
Bikes: 81' Peugeot PXN-10 Super Competition, 83 Dave Moulton/John Howard, 02 Cinelli SuperCorsa, 04 Serotta Legend Ti ST
I'm trying to post in the WTB and it won't let me saying I may not have permission. What do I need to be able to post? Thanks in advance.
#257
Out fishing with Annie on his lap, a cigar in one hand and a ginger ale in the other, watching the sunset.
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 16,049
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From: South Florida
Bikes: Techna Wheelchair and a Sun EZ 3 Recumbent Trike
Bikingfool, starting the Marketplace threads (For Sale, WTB) are restricted to premium members, and you can get this here:
https://www.bikeforums.net/payments.php
https://www.bikeforums.net/payments.php
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. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
#258
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 15
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From: Huntington, WV
nope. i just tried that and with each different option i can advance in the thread a little further, but it still at some point begins rolling back.... literally. like the url goes from 319, 318 317 316 315 314 and so forth until it gets, well, done. please help.
#259
Out fishing with Annie on his lap, a cigar in one hand and a ginger ale in the other, watching the sunset.
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 16,049
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From: South Florida
Bikes: Techna Wheelchair and a Sun EZ 3 Recumbent Trike
Perhaps there are a lot of soft deleted posts in these longer threads. They will still contribute to the page count still.
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. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
#261
Out fishing with Annie on his lap, a cigar in one hand and a ginger ale in the other, watching the sunset.
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 16,049
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From: South Florida
Bikes: Techna Wheelchair and a Sun EZ 3 Recumbent Trike
Link me to one of these threads so I can see what you are talking about exactly, then. Thanks in advance....
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. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
#262
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 15
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From: Huntington, WV
these threads both give me trouble:
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...21710&page=213
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...05822&page=260
thanks!
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...21710&page=213
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...05822&page=260
thanks!
#264
Out fishing with Annie on his lap, a cigar in one hand and a ginger ale in the other, watching the sunset.
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 16,049
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From: South Florida
Bikes: Techna Wheelchair and a Sun EZ 3 Recumbent Trike
these threads both give me trouble:
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...21710&page=213
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...05822&page=260
thanks!
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...21710&page=213
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...05822&page=260
thanks!
__________________
. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
#265
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 15
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From: Huntington, WV
well, it's not my thread to close and start a new one of... so that's not an option. and the image heaviness isn't the culprit... any other ideas or help?
#266
Out fishing with Annie on his lap, a cigar in one hand and a ginger ale in the other, watching the sunset.
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 16,049
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From: South Florida
Bikes: Techna Wheelchair and a Sun EZ 3 Recumbent Trike
I'll need to do some research, I guess. I do know part of the issue is centered around a forum setting prioritizing faster loading threads to keep the database stable until our next update is finished. BF has grown exponentially and VB isn't really designed or coded for a forum this size. We're supposed to migrate to a faster and larger server group in the near future, and add in some additional software features to stabilize the DB, lke better memcache, etc, but i don't know exactly what that progress is as of yet.
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. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
#267
Ok. I'm getting a few annoying problems that may be related. They've happened before, but I've never documented them.
The first thing is that occasionally when I post to a new thread, it doesn't recognize that I've read the thread. Obviously it's impossible to have not read a 1 page thread that you're the last post of, but I've had a few instances of it in the last couple days. It will show new posts, even including my own post as new. I can go back and read, but it doesn't do any good. Even after other people have posted, the thread will still remain as a new post for me no matter how long passes or what I do. Here is a screenshot of that problem currently in my control panel.

Another problem is that threads that I haven't actually read will get marked read, and then I'll lose track of them. For example, if I click on my control panel and start from the bottom of subscribed threads, but then I take too long reading on them before I go back to the control panel, my control panel will have wiped out all my new threads and I'll only have really recent stuff, not everything that was there just a few minutes ago that I still haven't read. The only solution I've found is to go to "List Subscriptions" and then just start clicking on last pages of threads and looking for the last thing I read, and then go from there.
A third problem is kind of the opposite of the last one, it will tell me I haven't read things that I have. This sometimes happens when I close the browser and come back, it will list a bunch of new posts that I've actually already seen.
Thanks for any help. I'm running Firefox 3.0.11 on Windows XP. I also run IE (dunno version) on Windows XP at work, and have similar problems there.
The first thing is that occasionally when I post to a new thread, it doesn't recognize that I've read the thread. Obviously it's impossible to have not read a 1 page thread that you're the last post of, but I've had a few instances of it in the last couple days. It will show new posts, even including my own post as new. I can go back and read, but it doesn't do any good. Even after other people have posted, the thread will still remain as a new post for me no matter how long passes or what I do. Here is a screenshot of that problem currently in my control panel.

Another problem is that threads that I haven't actually read will get marked read, and then I'll lose track of them. For example, if I click on my control panel and start from the bottom of subscribed threads, but then I take too long reading on them before I go back to the control panel, my control panel will have wiped out all my new threads and I'll only have really recent stuff, not everything that was there just a few minutes ago that I still haven't read. The only solution I've found is to go to "List Subscriptions" and then just start clicking on last pages of threads and looking for the last thing I read, and then go from there.
A third problem is kind of the opposite of the last one, it will tell me I haven't read things that I have. This sometimes happens when I close the browser and come back, it will list a bunch of new posts that I've actually already seen.
Thanks for any help. I'm running Firefox 3.0.11 on Windows XP. I also run IE (dunno version) on Windows XP at work, and have similar problems there.
#268
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Joined: Apr 2009
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As Tom mentioned above, vBulletin has a hard time when forums get this big. While there have been really drastic improvements in scalability, it's not perfect. You're above problems are due to this scalability issue.
In a perfect world, every time you view a thread it would mark in the database that you've read it. Then, when you load a forum, it knows without doubt which ones you've read and which ones you haven't. On smaller forums, this is not too taxing of a task and that's how it functions.
When the board gets bigger, this becomes harder and harder to do. Instead, there are different options to determine which ones you've read and which you haven't. While none of them are perfect, they're more efficient for the system, and with a forum this large the most accurate options aren't possible.
The scaling problems in this particular site are two fold... not only does it have a lot of posts, but the rate at which new posts are added is very high as well. This complicates the issues. vBulletin is very dedicated in solving these problems and I'm confident that things will improve before they get worse. These are simply new hurdles; 10 years ago, there weren't forums with 10M+ posts.
In a perfect world, every time you view a thread it would mark in the database that you've read it. Then, when you load a forum, it knows without doubt which ones you've read and which ones you haven't. On smaller forums, this is not too taxing of a task and that's how it functions.
When the board gets bigger, this becomes harder and harder to do. Instead, there are different options to determine which ones you've read and which you haven't. While none of them are perfect, they're more efficient for the system, and with a forum this large the most accurate options aren't possible.
The scaling problems in this particular site are two fold... not only does it have a lot of posts, but the rate at which new posts are added is very high as well. This complicates the issues. vBulletin is very dedicated in solving these problems and I'm confident that things will improve before they get worse. These are simply new hurdles; 10 years ago, there weren't forums with 10M+ posts.
#270
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,503
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From: Capitol Hill, Washington, DC
Bikes: Specialized Tricross Comp, Custom Steel Sport Touring, Specialized Turbo Vado 4.0 SL
RSS subforum feed broken?
I have followed the 50+ forum in Bloglines for years. It stopped working a couple of weeks ago and continues to show a feed error message when I delete it and re-subscribe. The full forums feed works in Bloglines. Any suggestions? Changes made recently? The last post that Bloglines can see in 50+ is dated: Sat, Jul 11 2009 6:24 AM
Last edited by donheff; 07-25-09 at 06:29 AM.
#271
Domestic Domestique
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,742
Likes: 6
From: Michigan
Bikes: Brand New Old Catamount! Schwinn Homegrown, Specialized FSR, Salsa Vaya, Salsa Chile Con Crosso
Is there any way to make the unsubscribe feature a little more stupid friendly? I occasionally hit it by accident and it immediately removes the thread or forum. If I'm not paying attention, I don't know what thread I unsubscribed to. It would be nice if there was a "do you really want to remove unsubscribe" or something.
#272
Out fishing with Annie on his lap, a cigar in one hand and a ginger ale in the other, watching the sunset.
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 16,049
Likes: 29
From: South Florida
Bikes: Techna Wheelchair and a Sun EZ 3 Recumbent Trike
I'll look for a compatible plug in. vBulletin doesn't currently support that.
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. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
#273
Thread Starter
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From: Between the mountains and the lake.
Bikes: 8 bikes - one for each day of the week!
#274
Move along.
Nothing to see here.
Nothing to see here.
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 102
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You are still seeing this?! I have not seen this issue return in forever. Could you provide a screenshot for me to send to the appropriate group the next time you see it? If you could get as much of the screen as possible, that would be great.
#275
Mrs. DataJunkie
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,527
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From: Vancouver, BC
Bikes: Asama "Luddite" and Kuwahara MTB from the 90s
The chat thing sucks. Crashes/freezes every 5 minutes. Extremely annoying!



