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Old 11-10-16 | 11:03 AM
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Homecoming and Frame Repair

So I have just finished a frame repair of karmic love.


Short story- I moved back home 6 years ago and quickly fell back into the local bike club, reacquainting with old friends and finding new ones. One of these new ones (Brian, married to an old friend) had a frame that was made by the guy who taught me to build 38 years ago. I thought this was neat. As our riding and socializing continued I realized that this frame was the one I first touched with a file. In 1978 when I heard of this small new shop that was frame building I stopped in and the boss, Jeff Napier, handed me a lug (Prugnat S4) and a file and told me to clean up it's shore line. Soon enough I was working there and starting to build my first frame. Well Brian took this bike across the country on his Adventure Cycling tour guide stint last year and part way across the frame broke. he splinted it and made it across otherwise with no other problems. On his return home I offered to repair this frame for the cost of materials. I felt that this was the right thing to do, keep a bike on the road that I was connected to. Kind of a warranty repair even though I didn't do the actual building. Brian was happy to have me do this.


I finished this repair yesterday. I took a few shots of the process and posted a Flicker album with them and some text. .


https://www.flickr.com/photos/731955...57675525296815


The failure was in the down tube about 3" up from the shell. It cracked lengthwise for a couple of inches then at each end of that crack had begun to spread in two directions traveling around the tube at an angle, very odd in my experience. I decided to replace the front end of the bike but not completely remove the top tube and down tube from shell and seat lug sockets. They were silvered in place originally and I didn't want to risk their filler. So I left a stub of each tube and joined the new tubes with sleeves. I did a few other improvements and corrections along the way. Andy.
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Old 11-11-16 | 10:29 PM
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Very cool story, Andrew!
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Old 11-13-16 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart
I left a stub of each tube and joined the new tubes with sleeves.
An interesting and elegant repair you've done. It looks similar to S&S couplers as the sleeves are placed.
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Old 11-13-16 | 09:00 AM
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Agreed. I actually made a couple of S&Sed frames with the coupler points off set. When this repair came around I "borrowed" from my past frames. Andy.
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Old 11-13-16 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SingleSpeeDemon
An interesting and elegant repair you've done. It looks similar to S&S couplers as the sleeves are placed.
There's an interesting idea. I've been contemplating a travel bike. Using a broken frame as a starting point would be a great way to save money and restore an old frame...
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Old 11-13-16 | 08:51 PM
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There's an interesting idea. I've been contemplating a travel bike. Using a broken frame as a starting point would be a great way to save money and restore an old frame...

There are a number of builders that will install S&S couplers to an existing frame. To do so and also fix a frame issue will need to be discussed directly with them, and the frame in question had better be in their hands at that time. This kind or mod/repair can have all kinds of mushrooming of cost with superficial initial estimates. Andy.
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Andrew, do you have a picture of the repaired tubes showing the sleeves you used to join the new front end to the original stubs?

Sorry, I see there's a flicker link!
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So here's the last chapter in this frame's repair. Today Brian (the owner) and I picked it up from the power coater (and I dropped off an old set of Weyless roller drums for refinishing, but that's another story). He did the after paint faces filing off of paint and chasing of threads then sprayed Frame saver inside.
Brian's post to his blog is below. It pleases me to see this bike back on the road. Andy.


It's Baaaaack!!

Blue-V2 ... Fresh from the Paint Shop
Old Blue. Oh, the stories, the miles, the memories. And due to it's age, it's been through a number of changes of it's own, as well as in the cycling world around it. Born in 1977 in a bike shop long since gone, this bike was made to travel. I dreamed of a fast touring bike, light and snappy, yet fully capable of long comfortable rides, interstate or cross-country. I worked with the frame builder to get the geometry just right to match my style of riding. Once I had it in hand, it was a real joy sourcing all the components from local bike shops, building it up and finally going out and exploring the Finger Lakes Region on it.
The original plan to celebrate the end of my enlistment in the Coast Guard that fall by riding cross-country hit a financial snag, but it wasn't long before Old Blue DID get out and start touring. Many many tours, events, centuries, challenges, adventures and a whole lot of years passed until finally, in 2015, Old Blue got to go cross-country ... San Diego to St. Augustine ... on Adventure Cycling's Southern Tier Route.
Not quite halfway into the trip, Old Blue started sounding creaky. Hey, at that age, whaddya expect? But it took several state line crossings before the source was found ...

OUCH!!!
Cracked downtube. It started back in Texas climbing up to an observatory in the Davis Mountains. Luckily, Old Blue made it to the Atlantic, but the time had come for a painful decision. Looks like it's time for Old Blue to retire.
My friend Andy wanted to have a look. Andy also had "an attachment" to Old Blue ... he was apprenticing in the bike shop where it was built and most likely had his hands on it at times. We talked, we dreamed, we talked some more. Damn it ... let's save Old Blue!
It was some pretty major surgery, but Andy pulled it off and added a few improvements as well. We had a local paint shop give Old Blue it's now THIRD paint job, and Old Blue came home today to get built up again. Not like the original, mind you. Old Blue was originally built up as a "15-speed", 5-speed freewheel, triple crank, with 27" wheels, and when I decided to "go-heavy", I replaced the original wheels by building up a pair of 48-spoke super-duty wheels. (Those 35 year-old wheels are STILL doing duty, now on a friend's Schwinn.)
But as time and bike technology "advanced", many things starting going obsolete. Old Blue could no longer be the bike it was. For the 2015 Southern Tier, I converted it to a single speed. (Yes ... I rode across the country on a single-speed ... that's another story.) There's so much "new" about Old Blue now that it deserves a re-name: "Blue-V2". Here's a tour ...

Mid-80's "Bullmoose" MTB bars
Starting at the top and going down ... I really love these tough old steel bars ripped off a mid-80's mountain bike. They don't give. Period. Not the most comfortable thing around, but if comfort's what you like, go watch TV. But the upside is they are GREAT for hard, out-of-the-saddle climbing. OK ... that's how ya crack frames ... but heck ...

Retro Suntour Brake Levers
Old farts remember Suntour right? **** built before millennials and still works great. Two fingers and plenty of power. Nuff said.

Classic Weimann Center-Pull Brakes
Weimann Center-Pull brakes. I saw a TON of them in a parts bin over at R Community Bikes recently. One of the most commonly used brakes back in the '70's. They were on EVERYTHING, I think. No idea why they aren't still "The Brake". Totally reliable rim crushers.

Brake Bridge and Rack Bosses
A couple improvements on the back end. The original noodle brake cable stop was replaced by a much beefier model. Less squish, better skids! Andy added rack bosses to match the way these newfangled rear racks mount these days. And he actually found a (rare) Campagnolo 10MM seat binder bolt on eBay or Craigslist or somewhere to replace the original that I swear must be somewhere in my nuts and bolts bin, but never could find. I'll probably find it tomorrow.

Classic Wraparound Seat Stays and Top Tube Sleeve
The Seat cluster. Classic wraparound seat stays and there you see the first of two custom sleeves Andy made to join the whole new front end of the bike to the rear triangle. Yes ... the original top tube was dented, the head tube had been modified to accept a different headset (Chris King) and fork combo, and the downtube obviously had to go.

Bottom Bracket and Downtime Sleeve
And the second sleeve. Inserted just south of where the crack in the downtube developed. Ya know ... I love lugs and stuff. Makes bikes look sophisticated. More is better, right? (Yes, you observant bike geeks see the crank arms hanging' off a Phil Wood bottom bracket. That sucker must be 30 years old now and still slicker than snot.)

Shimano 600 53/39T Crankset
Pulled the crank out of the parts bin. It came on a carbon race bike from 1995 (the FIRST frame I broke) and should work well here. Hey wait ... where's the front derailleur? There ain't one. Who needs it? I have fingers ... I can shift manually. I also liked my '67 Ford Ranch Wagon with three-on-the-tree.

Velo Orange Flip Flop Hub
Flip Flop! Got a 17 tooth freewheel on one side and a 22 tooth freewheel on the other side of a symmetrically built Velo Orange wheel. (No dish. Strong ... better be!) So, yeah ... if I need to shift gear "ranges", I just stop, get off, drop the wheel, flip it, chain up and stick it back into those bee-you-tee-ful Campagnolo vertical dropouts!

Retro Suntour Derailleur
Cheater! So you DO have a derailleur, you say? Sure ... a very NICE RETRO one actually, but do you see a shift cable? Nope! I gotta have something to take up chain slack between the grand total of FOUR different gear ratios I have and this does the trick. Just screw down the limit screws to position the top pulley in line with the freewheel, and Tah-Dah ... a no-fuss singleator! Because I have two chainrings, I have "Low" and "Medium" ratios with the 22T freewheel, and "Medium" plus "High" ratios with the 17T freewheel. The two "mediums" are only a couple gear inches different, so I really only have three gears. That's enough. I still have to remove the cable clamp screw and the cable stop on the back of the derailleur. Unnecessary weight! BWAHAHAHA!!

Siquar Pan Touring Pedal

The final bits on the new setup is my "autographed" touring pedals, a Cambium saddle on top a suspension seat post, and 700X38 tires for a bit of comfort on Texas boulder-seal pavement. Yup ... We're Going Again! Adventure Cycling's 2017 Southern Tier 2!
Welcome Home "Blue-V2" ... Let's Ride!
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