Hey guys, I´m new in this forum, it looks like you know a lot of bikes. This is my dilemma!

I´m looking to buy a new bike in the next few days. I live in South America - Perú and my budget is not that big ($700 aprox.)

Previously I owned a mountain bike with front and rear suspension. But now I want something fast! I live in Lima City which could be equivalent to NYC but with bumpy roads and potholes everywhere. LOL.

I got this options:

Almost new Jamis Endura Sport 2012: Carbon fiver frame. Love the light weight and the looks.

Trek DS 8.3 Hybrid Bike

MtB in general could be a Marlin or whatever

I like going fast and do an occasional jump between sidewalks and roads. So the bike dealer told me that if I jump with the Road bike or the Hybrid bike (ds 8.3) I will destroy the rim or the wheel itself. They recommend a Mtb but i don´t like the width of the tires lol. I don´t jump all day long. I just jump when it´s completely necessary, like when there are people walking or something.
What bike do you recommend?


Tomorrow I´ll go to Specialized store but I think the prices higher than my wallet.


Oh, and i found this:
https://lima-lima.olx.com.pe/vendo-bi...-iid-794905635
700 soles is equivalent to $220. That is a old bike but is really cheap. Is it worth it?

Oh, I like the Trek 1220.
It is modern enough without breaking the bank.
And, if you do manage to destroy the wheels... you won't be out a fortune.

I would, however, recommend that you treat the road bike wheels with caution (although another thread suggested that a few inch vertical drop shouldn't hurt the wheels much).
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-cy...s-fragile.html

I don't know, I still will "use" my bike, but also try to be gentle with it.

What is bike theft like in Lima?
I'd suggest getting a GOOD bike lock if left outside.

You can buy mountain bike sized tires with treads that are more suited to the road. Geax makes some, maybe some other companies.

Well.. I´ll never left the bike outside locked to a lightpost. My friend lost his bike that way, apparently a thief came with a metal cutting scissor and bye bye bike. But I ride mostly in the safe area of Lima and I always go to buildings with parking spaces.

Yeah I could totally be careful with the tires. If I´m going to pick a road bike I don´t know if I should spend $700 for the carbon fiber o $200 for the old trek ( doing a little research i found that model is from 1995-1998, so It´s really old or as some of us say a classic lol )
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That Trek looks like a good option to me. Also gives you a chance to determine whether you really like road bikes without investing too much money.

And, what does my old Colnago (which I still ride) rank as... probably a 1968 or 69?

The Trek isn't top of the line, but has many of the "modern" advancements such as brifters (indexed brake shifters), a cassette, and an aluminum frame. Although, I think it is 7 spd.

Is it 100% functional?

Does Lima have saltwater corrosion issues?

I don't think I'd buy a new bike for a "city bike", especially if you aren't sure you want a road bike. If the Trek doesn't work out, you can always sell it for about the same price you bought it for.

The Jamis Endura Sport is used, so it will have already depreciated some, but in a year or two, it may only be worth $500 or so if you decide you don't like it. And, it is a greater target for theft.

Anyway, it never hurts to make an offer on a bike like the Trek. $200?

Yes, Lima is next to the sea, but i got a aluminum MtB for 3 years and never see a corrosion issue. Tomorrow I'll see the bike. What should I check on the bike?

- levers
- corrosion

Hmmm....
It would depend a bit on how comfortable you are with doing your own maintenance, or how expensive shop time is.

At $220, I would expect the bike to be mostly rideable (with perhaps some minor tuning issues, but nothing major).

• DOES IT FIT?
• Check the joints and welds in the bike frame for cracks. Sometimes it is difficult to tell the difference between a paint scratch and a crack, but look for natural stress points as an indication. A major crack would be a show stopper.
• The Brifters are one of the more expensive components, and a pain to replace (Microshift 7x2 and 7x3 is available). But, I'd make sure you can shift up and down through all the gears (hopefully everything is adjusted).
• Wheels can be trued if not too bad, but look for big dents in the rim (or surging when braking), and that the wheels run reasonably true. Also make sure there are no cracks in the rim around the nipples. Also deeply concave brake tracks may indicate a rim replacement in the near future.
• See if the wheel wiggles side to side when moving it with the hand, and ask the seller whether the hubs and bottom bracket have been serviced (not a big deal, but good to
• Tire Condition. I usually don't consider this very much, but new tires will cost $40 to $100 for the pair.
• Take it out for a short test ride.

I agree with the other posters who suggested considering the Trek. It is probably considerably lighter than your current bike but I would suggest you treat it better than you do your MTB. In general, light road bikes are not meant for jumping curbs and you need to avoid big potholes if you want the wheels to stay true. The frame color in the picture looks black so I'm not sure which year matches best, probably 1995 based upon the color of the decals
Color schemes for Trek 1220
1994, ice indigo/ice violet fade with gold decals 1995, ice indigo/violet fade with silver decals 1996 ,ice Indigo/ice violet fade with gold decals 1997, gloss deep purple with titanium decals 1998, ice earth green with titanium decals
You can see the specs for all the years here: 1995 Trek 1220 - BikePedia You would be paying 25% of the original cost but prices have gone up a lot in two decades. You get a lot less for $800 today compared to back then. The components are good and the frame is aluminum.

Well.. I bought the bike and took it to my bike mechanic because one of the brifters didn´t work. He told me that the frame itself was curved, the tires dry and the bike needed new brifters. So overall he strongly recommend me to return it. I´m back with my original options.

Trek DS 8.3
Jamis Endura Sport
MtB

Any recommendation?

If you had to choose between the Jamis Endura or the Trek DS which one would you pick?


Guys, what kind of road bike is this? I'll love to do that!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhabgvIIXik

Lol if I can do that with the Jamis Endura, I'm gonna buy it tomorrow!

Any suggestions?

I would suggest you slow down and wait for the right buy. no need to rush this and get the wrong bike. I'd also suggest if you want to ride this style of bike, stop jumping curbs. seriously, just stop doing it altogether unless you have enough cash to buy new parts often. that dude is a really good rider who understands physics better than the average human. he also does not pay for wheel replacements, i assure you of that.

learn to ride a road bike properly, and inspect the next bike with a more critical eye as well. if it has a bent frame, you should be able to see that. if any part is "not working" don't buy it.

Now, that is one wild video.

It appears to be an "ordinary" road bike, in this case Colnago, but custom built to be extremely lightweight, but also durable. Following the video links, there were obviously a lot of crashes, perhaps a crash on EVERY scene. I wouldn't be surprised if they went through several sets of wheels, and probably a few other broken components too. Oh, at least for the first film, 1 set of wheels, and only a few scratches on the bike.

And, unfortunately, one broken back, leaving Martyn Ashton permanently paralyzed, and no longer riding a stunt bike.

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Sorry the Trek didn't pan out. Hopefully the seller was willing to take it back. Having a shop look at the bike isn't a bad idea. Many "roadies" here in the USA, especially those buying older and used bikes do most of their own maintenance. But the older the bike, the more you should be willing to do yourself.

The Jamis Endura and Trek 8.3 DS are very different bikes, and good for their own situations. Either can be used as a commuter/errand bike, and it depends a bit on the rider preferences. The Endura has a good spoke count which is in favor of your plans of using it with rough terrain. Make sure you have a lot of air pressure in the tires. But, if you're planning on a lot of jumping, perhaps tend towards the Hybrid or a Cyclocross specific bike.

There is something to say about a really light $4000 or $5000 bike, but you're not in the fully custom carbon fiber bike market at this time.

There are videos of the Road Bike Party 2 Bike Build, and the Road Bike Party 3 Bike Build

Oh, says in the 2nd video, no broken wheels, and the wheels still run true.

It looks like MTB brake levers in the 2nd video. Road levers in the 3rd.

Both apparently use flat pedals... a bit surprising.

Have you thought about a cross bike? They are a cross between roadie and mtb. they land in the middle somewhere. They are pretty tough and fun! I have a 2012 trek x01 that I got as a leftover for $600 and it kicks butt! Ask lbs about a crosser.

Bill

YES!!!!

I did snag a 2011 Specialized Tricross for $200 (needing some tinkering)... it just has a bit of a heavy feel, but certainly seems as if it will take the abuse.

The question might be what the limit of what a bike can take. The CF rims may have the advantage over aluminum in that they don't bend. It is either spring back, or break. But, a lot has also changed in the last 50 years... with subtle changes in alloys and design to make bikes stronger. Those bikes in the Road Bike Party films take a lot from the Cyclocross bikes.

As far as impacts.... there are lots of photos of bikes that used parked cars as brakes... usually ending with a break.

Hitting the rim flat coming off a curb would be less damaging than hitting it square on running into a curb without jumping.

They are tough devils! I have hopped down trees and other fodder with my trek and it keeps ticking. I have had to straighten out the hanger and myself!LOL It also is pretty good on the road too. Not as fast as the cervelo but can take a hit that would put the s5 in an early grave! My wheels are aluminum and seem to take it well.

Okay. I´m a little confused about this.

Cyclocross, Tricross and Crosstrail, what's the difference between them?

Cyclocross is a general term.

Then way I think of it...
One has a "Road Bike" and a "MTB".
A "Hybrid" is a cross between the Road bike and MTB, usually with 700c tires, but more related to a MTB, often with front shocks and flat bars. And, for whatever reason, often "low end".
A "Cyclocross Bike" is also a cross between a Road bike and MTB, but taking more from the Road bike, usually with drop bars, "brifters", and many quality road components.

Tricross is a Specialized brand product that is a Cyclocross bike.
Crosstrail is a Specialized brand product that is a Hybrid bike.

That's pretty much it. The crosser is a little faster I think and just as tough as a hybrid. I like the feel of the crosser better for the road than a hybrid as I also ride a roadie and love it. I ride mtb too but limit that to the woods. The crosser is fun and ok on the road. Not as fast as the roadie but for me a great foul weather and ride w/the family bike. Have also taken it on single track trails. Its really fast in the woods.
Bill

well, just to clarify I did get my money back.

I called Trek, Giant and Specialized and a Cyclocross bike starts at $1500. So that's not in my budget right now.

Reading reviews I heard people complaining about broken spokes in the DS 8.3. that's no good :/

On the other hand paople say the components of the Jamis Endura are crap and only the frame is worth the price. Is that true? Here is the specs.
Jamis Xenith Endura Sport 2012 Road Bike | Evans Cycles

Check jenson usa. they have a diamondback crosser for $800. Could be worth looking at. The jamis you had a link to is nice. What are you looking at price wise for that? Keep looking, I found my Trek x01 for $600 new and it retailed for $1700. It is a 2012 and they wanted to get it out of the shop. Don't get in too big a hurry and you can find some real good deals. Chec out a jamis cross bike. Check C-dale for leftovers.
Bill

Thanks for helping! but I live in Perú - South America and I don´t think they´ll ship bikes over seas. ):

They actually do ship International. Whether Peru is one of the places or not I do not know. They actually have the jamis you were talking about. Check it out and don't give up so easy. They actually have the jamis you were talking about.
GOOD LUCK!

As much as I like Trek, for a budget bike, I would stay away from them as you will be paying a premium just for the name. My 2 Cents.